Aug 1, 2009 9:00:31 AM - 1 LEARNCENTRAL.TV CHANNEL
00:01 - Katie
Greetings from Alexandria, VA

00:03 - "Creating Great PowerPoints without Breaking the Law
california

00:09 - clinds
I'm excited for this presentation! Just found out that I will be training teachers on Neo Office in the fall and hopefully this will give me some ideas to bring it to the 21st c!
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00:09 - Victor
Hi from Los Angeles, CA

00:10 - Peggy George
awesome group!!! Fantastic to have all of you here on a summer Saturday!!

00:16 - pedro
pretty good

00:30 - Sandra McDonald
Hi, I'm from Sacramento

00:56 - Carolyn B
Hi from Long Island, New York

01:38 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
Hello from Mooresvile, NC! :)

01:58 - Linda Spaulding
Good morning from Salem OR

02:03 - plnaugle
Good day everyone. Paula here from sunny New Orleans.

02:06 - mireille
hello from toronto canada

02:14 - Benjamin
Hello from Aguascalientes, Mexico

02:15 - Peggy George
you teachers are phenominal to spend a Saturday during your summer vacation learning about technology and teaching!!

02:25 - Kim Caise
hi mireille and paula!

02:26 - Peggy George
Hi Paula!

02:33 - plnaugle
Hi Peggy and thanks.

02:36 - pegwd
Hello and good morning from Buffalo NY!

02:43 - Peggy George
Welcome mireille! Hope your Skype adventures are going well!

02:55 - McTeach
Good morning from CA!

03:12 - pedro
hello from Chile, winter here

03:16 - Peggy George
love the way you're using the hand Lorna to point to the different features

03:36 - plnaugle
Hello Pedro. How is Chile today?

03:50 - pedro
sunny but too cold in the mornings

03:51 - Peggy George
go ahead and try the smiley face--it's fun!!

04:02 - Peggy George
yeah!

04:06 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
these are neat tools!

04:19 - RitaZ
hello, Pedro, from neighbouring Argentina :-)

04:32 - Ann Porta
Good Morning from Arkansas

04:38 - JR
hi, JR, from Massachusetts

04:38 - Peggy George
I can't wait to see our map today!! What a great spread of participants!

04:52 - christina
hello from michigan

05:02 - Calvamom
Hello, from Dearborn, Michigan

05:10 - Everett
should I see the whiteboard tools yet?

05:18 - Kim Caise
not yet @everett

05:25 - david_ellis
yo from harrisburg pa

05:30 - christina
is there audio that i should be hearing?

05:34 - Calvamom
yes

05:40 - Peggy George
I love the wide layout because the chat window is bigger and easier to read

05:48 - Calvamom
do the sound setup

05:54 - Kim Caise
yes christina. if you arent hearing the audio you may want to go to tools to audio and the setup wizard

05:54 - Peggy George
if you're not hearing the audio try using the audio setup wizard

06:22 - Ann Porta
Thanks for the hint about wide layout!

06:23 - mireille
could you give the link to the clipart webinar?

06:39 - christina
it always helps to turn up the volume! duh!

06:46 - Kim Caise
http://live.classroom20.com has all of the archived presentations

06:49 - Peggy George
when the slides start you can easily change back to a larger view of the slides if you want

06:51 - Vicki IL
Vicki Springfield, IL cloudy and rain coming

07:04 - Peggy George
yahoo!!! that is awesome!!

07:11 - Kim Caise
south africa and thailand!

07:20 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
how do you delete the star?

07:20 - CristinaLemos
Hi from Leiria, Portugal

07:21 - Maria
Just great! :-)

07:36 - Peggy George
don't worry--everything goes away when the map goes away

07:43 - julesm
JulesmPhoenix, AZ 110 degrees

07:44 - plnaugle
I always love to see the map each Saturday.

07:45 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
ok :-)

07:54 - david_ellis
i dont know akron PA.

08:13 - Peggy George
Hi Julesm--great to have another Phoenix compadre :-)

08:19 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
i don't have powerpoint but i do keynote. is that the same?

08:22 - Dave
what about other medums, such as IWB software?

08:35 - Peggy George
old habits die hard--had to look for the green check today

08:41 - Chris J
use keynote here but said yes

08:57 - Peggy George
good point Chris J!!

09:02 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
awesome i'll do the same. it's the same idea :)

09:06 - david_ellis
i love lancaster county, espcially roots market!

09:11 - Peggy George
we'll talk about powerpoint in generic ways that will apply to keynote too

09:19 - Jessica Sanchez
no because their awful

09:29 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
great looking forward to it peggy

09:58 - plnaugle
Good morning Kim.

10:09 - Peggy George
great job everyone with using the polling tool!

10:11 - Calvamom
Keynote is the Mac opensource Powerpoint equivalent

10:17 - Janet
I'm a school librarian, so I personally don't assign PowerPoints, but I work with teachers who do.

10:37 - Linda Spaulding
No, to most all questions. I'm a grad students in Info Tech

10:50 - Dave
more teacehrs are using their interactie whiteboard software to make their presentations more interactive thatn what PPT can do.

10:52 - Chris J
Keynote is not open source. It is very closed and part of iWork

10:57 - Calvamom
I'm a teacher/librarian, I assign and teach copyright with all multimedia.

11:18 - Reanea Wilson
I'm a librarian also, and would love to get new ideas to use ppt with students(k-5)

11:21 - Chris J
the preso software in Open Office is open source and so is Google's online preso software

11:24 - Peggy George
good for you Calvamom!!! That's the ideal situation!

11:31 - Calvamom
yes I Use a Promethean board, but the same principles of copyright apply.

11:51 - Peggy George
this will be interesting as we fill the screen-we'll fix it soon

12:07 - plnaugle
@david_ellis I went to HS and college in York, PA.

12:18 - Peggy George
now we know what it's like for an ADD student!! overload!

12:25 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
LOL

12:33 - maryfarrag
LOL@Peggy

12:48 - david_ellis
@plnaugle york college perhaps? a nice school

12:56 - Peggy George
we need a bigger screen!! :-)

12:56 - Maria
It would be nice to have that list by the end. :-)

13:12 - Peggy George
We'll do our best to save the ideas!!

13:16 - Maria
A list of great ideas. :-)

13:17 - Carmen Gatti
Great idea Maria!

13:19 - plnaugle
@daavid_ellis Yes class of '73.

13:27 - maryfarrag
Wonderful

13:34 - Peggy George
great ideas everyone!!!

14:00 - plnaugle
LOL Peggy.

14:12 - christina
minor child crisis...missed the final results of ideas...can i look at those somewhere?

14:39 - Peggy George
I'm so excited to have Alvin Trusty with us today!!

15:01 - Kim Caise
they will be in the recording @christina and you can save the set of slides by going to file save and save the whiteboard as a pdf

15:03 - Calvamom
Dearborn

15:09 - Noreen
Lately I hear PowerPoint used a lot as a slur for bad presentations

15:12 - Peggy George
You'll find all of his links and additional resources in our ShareTabs for the show so you can explore them later. http://sharetabs.com/ywz

15:16 - maryfarrag
<<Welcoming Alvin from Mary in Cairo, Egypt

15:26 - christina
me too noreen...power pointless...

15:47 - plnaugle
Welcome Alvin.

15:57 - Noreen
well some people still only use the blue screen with five bullet points

16:06 - christina
indeed! bad stuff

16:15 - Peggy George
oh no--the dark side...Tucson AZ my rival at ASU :-)

16:18 - Kim Caise
my husband is a big UofA fan!

16:22 - Noreen
it's how you design the screens I think

16:23 - Kim Caise
and alumni

16:32 - Ian Nairn - UK
Bradford on Avon Wiltshire

16:48 - Kim Caise
http://sharetabs.com/ywz

16:53 - plnaugle
Hello and welcome Ian.

17:30 - Noreen
ha

17:44 - Suzanne Neuman
That's a great turn out!

17:49 - cindytuaz
UA football or basketball fan? Big difference!

17:56 - MB
LOL

17:56 - Peggy George
you're so funny Alvin!!!!

17:56 - plnaugle
Alvin LOL.

17:57 - Shamblesguru
Will this Presentation be on Slideshare.net ?

17:58 - Patti Jelinek
Ha

18:00 - Kim
lol

18:01 - Ann Porta
too funny!

18:09 - Kim Caise
yes shabmles and in our http://sharetabs.com/ywz

18:13 - Peggy George
yes it is Shamblesguru-link in our sharetabs

18:19 - Joan
you are funny, thanks

18:34 - Kim Caise
http://delicious.com/atrusty/greatppt

18:36 - Peggy George
I bet we've all done that at some point!!

18:43 - Noreen
seen enough of those :P

18:48 - Kim Caise
definitely peggy

19:22 - plnaugle
Love his transperancy.

19:50 - Corina Long
Looks great

20:00 - Esther
I cannot see the whole page

20:15 - Kim Caise
you can resize the window esther

20:31 - Noreen
we just had a keynote speaker and part of his photostory had an obviously current piece of music with no citation

20:48 - Esther
It does not allow me

21:07 - Lorna Costantini
Thanks Alvin for thinking of Canadians

21:08 - maryfarrag
Is something wrong with the voice?

21:08 - christina
i teach in kuwait and i'm really not convinced there are copyright laws...

21:17 - Peggy George
what fun!!! don't be afraid to vote!

21:46 - Shamblesguru
USA Law?

21:53 - Shamblesguru
Legal in Thailand

21:55 - christina
but i do us usa law

23:00 - Peggy George
depends on if you save it to your computer after you project it, right?

23:06 - christina
for educational purposes, i have always thought so

23:13 - Herb
Depends on whether the book is available for sale for educational purposes.

23:31 - Janet
I think so, if you cite the source

23:35 - Herb
Legal if the students have to login.

23:52 - BethStill
@Herb....that is exactly what I was going to say!

24:18 - plnaugle
Hi Beth.

24:32 - Peggy George
we need a "not sure" vote :-)

24:32 - Janet
OK to copy of you cite

24:36 - BethStill
Good morning Paula.

24:37 - Herb
As long as it's for free public education.

25:09 - Benjamin
depends

25:23 - Joan
not sure

25:31 - Herb
What is protected is your presentation but not the data within.

25:33 - Dave
its automatially copyrighted

25:43 - Herb
Yes, in class.

25:52 - plnaugle
In class.

26:09 - christina
i think if you don't charge students to watch it

26:10 - Benjamin
not the entire movie

26:12 - Janet
Not unless it's used in face to face teaching

26:13 - Calvamom
gotta buy a movie liscense

26:16 - Peggy George
maybe legal depending on the purpose but many schools don't allow...

26:17 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
yeah and part of a lesson plan

26:36 - plnaugle
If you bought the movie you can show it.

26:38 - Noreen
yuk

26:45 - Maria
lol

26:45 - Kim
lol

26:49 - Kim Caise
not necessarily @paula

27:05 - christina
hallelujah!

27:06 - Peggy George
cute but not all that useful!

27:09 - Benjamin
avoid bullets in general

27:17 - plnaugle
I'm going to need to brush up on copyright.

27:21 - Carole Seubert
Like the notion of "screen real estate"

27:40 - MB
Me too...Screen real estate

27:43 - Kim
agreed

27:43 - Chris J
Presentation Zen and Guy Kawasaki believe you shouldn't try to use all your real estate

27:54 - twelchky
lol

27:55 - Benjamin
lol

27:59 - Peggy George
there are some fantastic resources in our sharetabs about copyright issues--

28:22 - Noreen
I make my kids use the blank layouts

28:25 - christina
sounds like a great campaign

28:26 - McTeach
Love that!

28:38 - Noreen
lol

28:40 - Kim
lol

28:44 - christina
too funny!

28:45 - plnaugle
LOL.

28:49 - Benjamin
lol

28:51 - Jill
i did

28:53 - Joan
hahahaha

28:55 - Herb
Yeah we heard it.

29:05 - Kim
so true

29:09 - Carmen Gatti
Did you legally copy that sound?

29:11 - Peggy George
this is a fantastic 3-hour workshop streamed from NECC this year on Erasing Copyright Confusion--be sure to check it out! http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1725737

29:30 - Carole Seubert
Have lived the "poor sound" experience on more than one occasion!

29:50 - christina
there is so much thought required for good, quality visuals!

30:02 - christina
nice!

30:16 - Kim
ha ha

30:21 - twelchky
lol

30:21 - Calvamom
Amen! that's my definition of hell.

30:22 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
so true!

30:23 - Peggy George
great example!!

30:35 - Maria
but you can read quite quickly :-D

30:45 - Noreen
One keynote had very text intensive slides and her speech never followed the text

30:49 - Noreen
very confusing

30:55 - BethStill
Oh if only I could convince my students to not read their slides!

30:56 - Jessica Sanchez
Yes! I have that

30:57 - Herb
No bullets even whenyou have a list of points????

31:00 - Jessica Sanchez
It

31:10 - Jessica Sanchez
It's great book

31:14 - Carole Seubert
get the don't read notion of good readers but what if you're working with ELLs?

31:16 - Janet
What was the name of the book?

31:18 - Chris J
At conferences I've walked out on slide readers

31:27 - Peggy George
I had university students who read their slides (and didn't read them very well--people kept correcting them!) Kind of sad!

31:30 - Jessica Sanchez
The non designers design book

31:40 - Jessica Sanchez
by Robin Williams

32:02 - Calvamom
the worst is when the student has plagarized and can't even read "their" slides.

32:11 - Janet
Thanks for the title!

32:29 - david_ellis
does manipulating photos violate copy write?

32:31 - christina
wow! i love learning the simple fixes!

32:52 - Kim Caise
me too @christina

33:09 - Chris J
Check out Garr Reynolds book and blog Presentation Zen. Very good on this topic http://www.presentationzen.com/

33:13 - twelchky
did he just inahle helium?

33:15 - MB
Do you just duplicate the slide?

33:33 - Peggy George
we have Garr Reynolds link in our Sharetabs! He has done some great work with this!

33:47 - plnaugle
I use duplicat slide a lot to keep alignment.

33:54 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
same here

33:59 - Kim Caise
in Elluminate the audio 'catches' when the bandwidth slows down

34:09 - Chris J
his internet connection has started compressing his audio stream and caused a pitch shift in his voice

34:22 - Noreen
I don't agree with that. I think decorative can be used for titles, just not main text

34:50 - plnaugle
That's a great tip to know.

34:55 - Peggy George
for me it depends on how readable it is--his example of decorative font was very hard to read

35:03 - Calvamom
As I get older, I realize how much harder those fonts are to read

35:18 - christina
i've come to despise comic sans

35:23 - Jessica Sanchez
me too

35:29 - Herb
Another way is to print the slide, lay it on the floor, and see if you can read it when you stand up.

35:32 - christina
i forbid students to use it

35:35 - Noreen
can't agree with that as an art teacher

35:41 - Peggy George
http://bancomicsans.com

35:51 - sayda 1
what's the book name slide-ology?

35:59 - Kim Caise
yes

36:08 - plnaugle
Educators use comic sans because of the lower case "a".

36:23 - Leslie D.
oh no, I used to use comic sans....

36:26 - sayda 1
thank you

36:41 - Peggy George
me too Leslie but I have changed my ways :-)

36:42 - Benjamin
interesting!!

36:48 - Jill
too faded

36:51 - Lorraine Leo
faded background

36:51 - Ian Nairn - UK
too grey

36:52 - Carmen Gatti
distrcting

37:03 - Kim
ha

37:05 - Carole Seubert
Crayon free but guilty of comic sans

37:16 - Peggy George
very interesting example!

37:35 - pegwd
I hear alot of talking in the backgrond - what is going on?

37:44 - Chris J
you could have just cropped the photo in iPhoto or Photoshop

37:47 - Peggy George
do you have a link open in your browser pegwd?

37:47 - Jill
i don't hear anything

38:02 - Jill
in the background

38:02 - Noreen
Kids have a hard time using proper contrast

38:12 - pegwd
Yes thanks for the tip

38:26 - Peggy George
that's a killer color--pink and purple!!

38:29 - Leslie D.
I do like the black background.

38:33 - Janet
Orange is glaring!

38:34 - Noreen
if you squint and it looks too much alike, you haven't enough contrast

38:37 - Shamblesguru
1 in 7 men (guys/males) are red-green colour blind .... be careful using red text on green background or green text on red

38:46 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
yeah my husband can't do the R/G thing

38:46 - Peggy George
good point Noreen!

38:57 - Chris J
Some of these remind me of kids myspace pages

39:14 - Peggy George
cute!

39:29 - Noreen
I've seen so many horrible Myspace pages

39:39 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
i deleted my myspace

39:59 - Jessica Sanchez
The reason i never use those is because the people or all white

40:28 - LMartin
I have that book - it is very interesting

40:31 - plnaugle
@Jessica Sanchez Yes we need diversity

40:35 - cindytuaz
I just saw her at NECC. She was very funny and informative

40:36 - LMartin
part of my masters degree program

41:00 - Kim
totally agree

41:19 - Shamblesguru
Visual Literacy http://www.shambles.net/pages/learning/artdesign/visuallit/

41:27 - Noreen
I allow my students one transition but don't force them to use the same one

41:28 - BethStill
Nice trick!

41:29 - Peggy George
thanks for that link Shamblesguru!

41:39 - Kim Caise
absolutely!

41:40 - christina
so true!

41:42 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
amen to that

41:50 - Leslie D.
great point!

41:57 - Peggy George
we have included all of Alvin's Delicious bookmarks for greatpowerpoints in our ShareTabs today- http://sharetabs.com/ywz

41:58 - Julie Morgenthal
That is the truth.

42:02 - christina
how about counting on it during a lesson with students...same problem

42:11 - Suzanne Neuman
that's me!

42:21 - christina
multi-tasking!

42:22 - Peggy George
that happened to us at edubloggercon at NECC!

42:24 - Kim Caise
too funny

42:29 - Ann Porta
just attended a confernece where that happened!

42:37 - Julie Morgenthal
Agreed-I the Internet is a great tool, but we should always plan just in case ...

42:39 - Chris J
You need seperate connections for presenters at conferences

42:50 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
mac has a screen capture utility. awesome!

42:50 - Herb
Could also download the video to your desk top.

42:54 - MB
is irfanview like jing?

42:59 - Jennifer
How do you do screen captures?

43:03 - cindytuaz
sounds like it

43:12 - Leslie D.
i like jing

43:15 - Noreen
print screen on the keyboard

43:16 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
on a mac, it's shift+cmnd+4

43:16 - Everett
I use jing - can post pics to blog real easy

43:17 - MB
I do too

43:20 - Herb
ifranview is a graphics presentationa nd ediing program.

43:23 - RitaZ
Jing is great

43:25 - Peggy George
on a Mac you can do screencaptures with command-shift-3 or command-shift-4

43:27 - Noreen
edit in Powerpoint

43:31 - Chris J
Tech Conferences have learned this and bring in multiple connections with one or two just for presenters

43:37 - Corina Long
love using skitch for screen captures

43:56 - Peggy George
command-shift-4 lets you select the part you want to capture (3 captures the whole screen)

44:08 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
that's true

44:15 - Jen
I use grab which is a free application from MAC

44:19 - Noreen
snag it was a good tool also

44:19 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
hit spacebar with c-s-4 and you can select a window

44:19 - Herb
No totally true. Public performance could still apply.

44:20 - MB
Peggy, which application?

44:28 - Chris J
you can also download jing for free from jingproject.com and it works on Mac and PC

44:39 - Peggy George
no application on a Mac--just keyboard commands

44:45 - MB
Oh..thanks

45:02 - Chris J
jing is just like snagit

45:26 - Peggy George
I also love to use Skitch for screencapture because you can add text to it

45:58 - MB
Did Mannie get money?

46:10 - Jen
I don't think he will -- his first request will hold up

46:33 - Herb
License trumps copyright

46:36 - Peggy George
wow-didn't know that about resale!

46:49 - Linda Spaulding
Good to know!

46:57 - Chris J
Mannie owns it and not who hired him unless that was stated when they hired him. If he sues them he will win if he can prove it was his pic

47:07 - christina
wow! so many of us must be guilty of that one...

47:15 - BethStill
@oswego98 Good morning!

47:20 - oswego98
hi

47:21 - christina
showing movies in class, that is

47:36 - Herb
However, if the publisher gave you the book with the caveate of not for sale then you had an agreement that supercedes copyright.

47:38 - Jen
I agree Mannie owns the picture -- but his first request was for just a signed picture and that would close the deal. I think that will hold up in court

47:40 - janoyankees
what if you don't charge to watch the move?

47:43 - Chris J
a lawyer got a cease and desist for putting that disclaimer on her blog

48:05 - janoyankees
that is no charge to watch the movie

48:05 - Kim Caise
if you dont have the special license to show the movie legally you can't show the movie

48:06 - christina
i thought the same thing, jan

48:19 - Chris J
the NFL cliamed that the disclaimer was copyrighted

48:20 - christina
i think it's b/c it's shown publicly

48:23 - Peggy George
hooray for that clarification!! Now I don't have to feel guilty when I record games on my Tivo!! :-)

48:31 - christina
...and a classroom is considered 'public'?

48:31 - Herb
However, if there was a license agreement then it would hold.

48:41 - Carole Seubert
so if family comes over for Sun dinner and a movie I'm in copyright violation?

48:48 - Calvamom
if it is not for instruction, it is not fair use

48:57 - christina
w/ family isn't considered 'public'?

49:09 - Kim Caise
not sure about that christina

49:20 - christina
me neither...

49:47 - Corina Long
Is it legal to download YouTube videos and insert them into ppt?

50:00 - Carole Seubert
under those terms each family member would have to purchase separate copies of the video

50:10 - christina
wow! that's enlightening!

50:12 - Jen
is it legal to jailbreak your phone?? teachers seem to always find ways to bend the rules

50:27 - Kim Caise
according to apple it isn't

50:28 - Leslie D.
Corina, great question. What about putting those videos on your wiki?

51:08 - Peggy George
what a great technique!! can't wait to try it!

51:12 - mireille
there are some many rules what do you suggest as a general rule???

51:28 - christina
oh dear!

51:43 - Janet
So, do you have to have a full citation in your example of the Time magazine cover? Is that legal?

51:45 - MB
Did you hear about that young fellow from Boston yesterday? Millions!

52:03 - Kim Caise
so if you are going to steal music go directly to walmart and not walmart.com

52:08 - Leslie D.
MB, I heard that on NPR this AM.

52:24 - MB
Yes, Tenenbaum

52:39 - MB
He looked so innocent - I sent the article to my college age kids.

52:43 - Peggy George
@mireille--you have to look to fair use guidelines to really understand it all--can't possibly learn all of the "rules" and so many are grey areas!

53:14 - plnaugle
That is so true Peggy.

53:25 - Jessica Sanchez
Will you address creative commons?

53:28 - Peggy George
transformative is definitely the key!!

53:46 - MB
Isn't there a previous Classroom 20. on CC?

53:58 - Peggy George
we had an earlier show with Kristin Hokanson that did a great job of explaining fair use and creative commons-check the archives

54:00 - Kim Caise
yes in the archives at http://live.classroom20.com

54:03 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
so it's better to be transformative?

54:06 - Jessica Sanchez
Good to know thanks

54:12 - christina
so, if i used an edited version of 'romeo and juliet' (that i haved edited and mashed up myself)...i may be legit?

54:39 - Peggy George
@christina--still depends on your purpose for the transformation

54:44 - Herb
You can copyright your presentation.

54:56 - Noreen
romeo and juliet should be public domain

55:05 - christina
the text, but not the movies

55:24 - christina
the text is public domain, but not the movies

55:35 - Noreen
yes

55:49 - Carole Seubert
So is a classroom a "Closed System"?

55:52 - BethStill
Would the Teach Act even include DVD's?

56:08 - Noreen
I would hold that a classroom is a closed system

56:10 - pedro
what you talk about is for big audiences, isn´t it? Because if I think of all these to prepare my lessons in a small comunity, I wouldn´t do it!

56:12 - Cindy Wallace
Did I understand you can copy a text page if posted in a closed system?

56:19 - christina
so, using moodle and blackboard to share copyrighted resources is the way to go?

56:26 - Kim Caise
yes

56:34 - Peggy George
I highly recommend the NECC presentation (3-hour workshop) on Erasing Copyright Confusion! It will answer a lot of your questions about copyright! http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1725737

57:00 - Benjamin
items in the public domain are another option.

57:38 - Jill
If you have paid for a download of a song, is it legal to use the whole song in your ppt?

57:54 - Peggy George
no Jill

57:59 - Kim Caise
no jill

58:05 - Leon Cych 1
http://s1.imagestamper.com/account.jsp is a great tool for use on the web with FLickr makes the process easy as well

58:06 - Irene
Can you legally copy released test items from the internet to use as practice exercises for your students?

58:07 - Shamblesguru
Copyright/Plagiarism Page on Shambles is at http://www.shambles.net/plagiarism/ inc lessons tutorials

58:31 - Peggy George
thanks Shamblesguru! I was waiting for you to post that :-)

58:32 - Leon Cych 1
Use Imagestamper on the found pic

58:32 - Benjamin
How would you include attribution within a powerpoint when using something licensed under creative commons?

58:51 - Leon Cych 1
Imagestamper archives your choice on the web

59:09 - Benjamin
Ok, just with the link.

59:11 - MB
Can you hyperlink on the photo?

59:28 - Leslie D.
I like that!

59:30 - christina
there is so much great info in this presentation! i'll be needing to re-visit...

59:33 - Peggy George
that's a really good way to share the attribution!

59:40 - Noreen
graphic bibliography

59:46 - Leon Cych 1
And you can copy and paste the details easily from imagestamper and all the images you choose are archived and backed up

59:50 - plnaugle
@christina Me too.

59:55 - Peggy George
we'll let you know as soon as the recording is posted! I'll definitely be watching this again!!

1:00:00 - Benjamin
What if the owner removes the item licensed under creative commons?

1:00:15 - Benjamin
Or chances the license

1:00:20 - Benjamin
changes

1:00:46 - Leon Cych 1
Well if you use imagestamper ou have chapter abnd verse of the date it had that license

1:00:57 - Peggy George
excellent point Leon!

1:01:03 - Peggy George
the date is important

1:01:22 - sayda 1
what's the book name?

1:01:25 - Noreen
you still haven't learned design concepts just by learning PPT

1:01:44 - Kim Caise
why most powerpoint presentations suck was the titile

1:01:59 - Peggy George
never thought of using the white paper background! what a great tip!

1:02:00 - MB
How do you get the "Rule of Thirds" on your camera?

1:02:05 - christina
do all digital cameras divide pics in thirds on the viewfinder?

1:02:18 - Kim Caise
not all, you have to check the features in the menu

1:02:19 - MB
Same question - ;-)?

1:02:27 - christina
great minds... ;)

1:03:04 - Carole Seubert
Anybody interested in adapting what we've learned here for a lesson for elementary school students learning to use powerpoint?

1:03:10 - Shamblesguru
The photographer composes the picture ... not the camera

1:03:29 - MB
Yes, but there was a grid on his digital camera.

1:03:32 - Carole Seubert
what a great review technique!

1:03:32 - Reanea Wilson
carole, i love that lesson idea

1:03:32 - Ann Porta
Great visual references

1:03:37 - Vicki IL
Wow, this is amazing. Pictures do make lasting impressions

1:03:39 - Peggy George
what a valuable review!!

1:03:44 - Kim
great job

1:03:45 - Ian Nairn - UK
where do you put the attribution?

1:03:49 - Kim Caise
http://sharetabs.com/ywz

1:03:51 - christina
outstanding visual review technique for students!

1:03:59 - Ian Nairn - UK
because they were not on the original slides?

1:03:59 - MB
Excellent presentation

1:04:01 - Carolyn B
Wow - great ideas - thanks

1:04:02 - RitaZ
impressive talk, Alvin

1:04:04 - Maria
Just great. Yes, I have learned so much. :-)

1:04:05 - Jill
excellent--thanks! i've learned a lot!

1:04:06 - plnaugle
Thank you Alvin. Lots of things to learn.

1:04:08 - christina
thanks so much!

1:04:09 - Janet
Wonderful; I'm a newbie and I loved it!

1:04:10 - Peggy George
what a fantastic presentation Alvin!!! Thank you soooo much!

1:04:10 - Dorothy Chase
Thank you!

1:04:13 - Lorraine Leo
Wow, definitely a presentation to revisit!

1:04:14 - Cindy Wallace
Thank you!

1:04:18 - mireille
do i ever

1:04:20 - McTeach
Outstanding presentation!!!

1:04:21 - johncarmanz
Thank You

1:04:27 - sayda 1
wonderful!!

1:04:28 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
thanks for doing this... and doing it now so we can gear up for the upcoming year!

1:04:28 - Cindy George
Outstanding review Alvin! Thank you very much!

1:04:29 - janoyankees
if are a presenter and are getting paid, can you use materials that you have permission to use them

1:04:30 - cindytuaz
Thank you

1:04:32 - Carole Seubert
Most excellent! Thank you Mr. Trusty

1:04:35 - Leslie D.
Thank you so much!

1:04:37 - LMartin
thanks

1:04:39 - Gail
When should students used "attribution: >>" and when yo use MLA citation of image??

1:04:40 - plnaugle
I definitely don't want to go to jail.

1:04:46 - Corina Long
excellent

1:04:49 - Suzanne Neuman
Excellent! Very helpful. Thank you.

1:05:03 - twelchky
Good quesiton plnaugle

1:05:10 - BethStill
One of the best presentations I've seen here! Thanks for sharing so many excellent resources!

1:05:13 - Jill
gotta go--bye all! Thanks to all.

1:05:15 - sdreyer
Thanks

1:05:15 - HDF
Thanks a lot!

1:05:18 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
will the link to the recording of today's presentation be posted?

1:05:22 - Linda Spaulding
Thank you! Bye

1:05:26 - MB
Yes, and I always want to come back.

1:05:34 - Peggy George
yes we'll post the link as soon as it's available in our archives :-)

1:05:41 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
great!

1:05:48 - Noreen
Shambles: thanks for posting this on Twitter

1:06:17 - Joan 1
I came in late and will look forward to seeing this again. Thank you. This is my first classroom 2.0 LIVE

1:06:20 - Peggy George
the recording will be posted here: http://live.classroom20.com/archive.html

1:06:22 - Victor
Thank you Alvin -- very informative and great job modeling your instruction!

1:06:48 - christina
diigo is amazing!

1:07:02 - Noreen
Love Diigo

1:07:22 - Kim Caise
http://sharetabs.com/ywz

1:08:03 - Vickie Lowe
what about using pictures of book covers to advertise new books in a high school library? can i use them on a wiki within the school setting

1:08:07 - Kim Caise
http://www.clicktools.com/survey?iv=b511e98485ee875 survey link

1:09:51 - MB
Thanks all!

1:10:29 - Kim Caise
http://www.clicktools.com/survey?iv=b511e98485ee875

1:10:52 - Peggy George
thank you all for joining us today! I know I learned a LOT!!

1:11:29 - Kim Caise
http://sharetabs.com/ywz

1:11:44 - Noreen
very good show

1:11:49 - Peggy George
sorry we've run a little overtime but if you'd like to stay longer, Alvin is happy to answer our questions.

1:12:12 - Reanea Wilson
alvin, what camera do u use?

1:12:31 - Peggy George
don't be afraid to take the mic! Great learning experience :-)

1:12:31 - Ian Nairn - UK
thanks for a great show and enjoy the rest of your day / weekend

1:14:04 - Peggy George
we have the first version of his presentation in the ShareTabs

1:14:27 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
can u post the sharetabs link again?

1:14:32 - Kim Caise
http://sharetabs.com/ywz

1:15:14 - Peggy George
http://delicious.com/atrusty/greatppt

1:15:59 - twelchky
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janoyankees: if are a presenter and are getting paid, can you use materials that you have permission to use them

1:16:58 - Peggy George
I'm so glad he's sharing this example about a teacher being prosecuted for copyright violation in Ohio for things used in the classroom!

1:17:34 - Peggy George
http://informationfluency.wikispaces.com/Digital+Storytelling+and+Reforming+PowerPoint This is a fantastic compilation of resources by Joyce Valenza--also in our ShareTabs.

1:17:38 - Esther
a question: does it violate the copyrights if a teacher shows a movie?

1:19:16 - Kim Caise
yes esther, it usually does depending on the movie

1:19:41 - Peggy George
keeping documentation of your efforts to get permission is very important

1:20:18 - twelchky
So is it 1923, or 1929 now?

1:20:24 - Carole Seubert
there go my lessons on comparing visual text and print text!

1:21:00 - christina
interesting...

1:21:15 - Leon Cych 1
In the UK the Universities sector introduced this resource for Web 2.0 and risk balancng it's a good generic tool http://web2rights.org.uk/diagnostic2.html

1:21:18 - Peggy George
@Carole--check out the information on fair use in the Erasing Copyright Confusion--there may be a way to do that...

1:21:32 - Carole Seubert
Thanks!

1:23:16 - Peggy George
you can't show those movies for entertainment in class!

1:23:28 - christina
but they can be shown if it's part of a lesson plan?

1:23:42 - Peggy George
Disney is very strict about their license!

1:23:42 - Noreen
schools shouldn't just always show movies during those days anyway

1:23:47 - Mary Ann
I've heard "don't touch Disney" ever!

1:24:05 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
our town does free 'movies on main' every friday during the summer. hmm....

1:24:05 - Esther
alvin, it was a great presentation. Thank you so much!

1:24:51 - Leon Cych 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUPsfYJONrU

1:26:04 - Peggy George
Thanks Leon--I was just going to post that link. Video on Disney and copyright

1:26:22 - Herb
Here in Austin we host the SXSW film Fest. MANY students parents are on the Austin Film Board. that's how studntest might mention to their parent that a movie was shown in class. I've also over heared on more than one occasion people mentioning examples of copyright violation in coffe shops.

1:26:24 - johncarmanz
Thank you so much for your informative presentation

1:26:31 - Noreen
art teachers depend on being able to use images

1:26:32 - Peggy George
it's really important to remember the transformative uses!

1:27:06 - julesm
love that video

1:27:07 - Vickie Lowe
question: use of book covers to advertise new books in a high school library...copyright violation?

1:27:15 - Peggy George
I saw that! It was amazing!! :-)

1:27:16 - mediaflo
from Stanford University

1:27:17 - Noreen
that was used at a conference

1:27:32 - plnaugle
I saw that video.

1:27:36 - Suzanne Neuman
can we have the link to that disney amalgamation?

1:27:42 - Kim Caise
can you you take a picture of a screen from the Internet, can you put that picture into a PowerPoint presentation?

1:27:42 - Leon Cych 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUPsfYJONrU

1:27:45 - Peggy George
janoyankees to Lorna Costantini, Alvin Trusty, Peggy George, Kim Caise: so if you take a picture of a screen from the Internet, can you put that picture into a PowerPoint presentation?

1:27:48 - Suzanne Neuman
thanks!

1:28:48 - Peggy George
there's that word again--transformation! :-) very important concept!

1:29:07 - Peggy George
funny!!

1:29:14 - plnaugle
LOL love the JK wedding dance.

1:29:24 - mediaflo
how about doing screen cast tutorials on doing programs?

1:29:33 - Joan
Thank you so much!

1:29:40 - mediaflo
yes

1:29:44 - plnaugle
Goodbye everyone thank you for another great learning session.

1:29:48 - Lorraine Leo
Thanks very much!

1:30:11 - Peggy George
yes-wolfram alpha

1:30:18 - Peggy George
very interesting data engine!

1:30:19 - christina
yes, someone was talking to me about that recently

1:31:10 - Leon Cych 1
Wolfram Alpha teaching example http://www.l4l.co.uk/?p=472

1:31:10 - Peggy George
that fine print is so hard to understand!! we really should read the licensing agreements but how many of us do???

1:32:18 - Peggy George
Twitter is a powerful force when it comes to questioning licensing agreements :-)

1:32:50 - Carmen Gatti
Thanks for a great presentation!

1:32:53 - mediaflo
very good session, thank you.

1:32:58 - christina
fabulous presentation, great resources, i learned a lot!

1:33:01 - Peggy George
Thank you so much Alvin!! Really valuable session and I appreciate your staying beyond the hour!!

1:33:03 - Benjamin
Excellent session, thanks!

1:33:04 - Maria
Thanks so much. It was a pleasure. :-)

1:33:06 - Esther
goodbye Thank you again

1:33:07 - CristinaLemos
great presentation. Thank you

1:33:12 - McTeach
Copyright makes a lot more sense to me now. Thank you!!!

1:33:18 - Noreen
thank you very much

1:33:32 - Kelly B. Nelson/NC
thanks Alvin

1:33:32 - Leon Cych 1
Thank you

1:33:40 - Peggy George
I'm so glad all of you could be here to learn together!

1:33:50 - Carole Seubert
Thanks to all! Will put it to good use!

1:34:02 - Noreen
See you Peggy

1:34:04 - Peggy George
We'll post the recording and chat log links very soon.

1:34:23 - Peggy George
Bye Noreen! So glad you were here! You have a lot of knowledge about copyright and PPT!

1:34:28 - julesm
this was my first podcast, thx, it was great

1:34:33 - Kim Caise
http://sharetabs.com/ywz

1:34:42 - Noreen
I just submitted an article to Learning and Leading

1:35:02 - Peggy George
good for you!! I'll look forward to seeing it in print :-)

1:35:09 - Noreen
hoping

1:35:32 - Kim Caise
http://sharetabs.com/ywz

1:35:37 - Kim Caise
http://www.clicktools.com/dashboard/survey/response.jsp

1:36:54 - Peggy George
that is such a valuable recommendation about carrying your point and shoot camera with you everywhere you go!! Now we need a session on how to organize all of them so we can find them again!

1:37:39 - Kim Caise
thank you all for coming - i will be stopping the recording and closing the room shortly

1:37:43 - metrochr
I missed the session, is it in the archieves

1:37:51 - Kim Caise
yes it will be later this weekend

1:38:00 - Kim Caise
http://live.classroom20.com