Aug 29, 2009 9:00:41 AM - 1 LEARNCENTRAL.TV CHANNEL


00:15 - Peggy George
Here we go!!

00:19 - Texas Titanium
go!

00:36 - Peggy George
Hi Jackie! Are you in your new home?

01:07 - Peggy George
Hi Kim Flack! You're going to love this session!!

01:14 - Kim Flack
*waves at peggy*

01:22 - Kim Flack
I can't wait!

02:10 - Peggy George
is this the first time using Elluminate for any of you?

02:25 - Sharla
Yes.

02:27 - hineswhim
yes

02:38 - #liveclass20
Mine as well.

02:49 - Peggy George
Great!! feel free to ask questions if you're not sure what to do. So glad you're here!!

02:53 - Texas Titanium
mic only works when moderator approves? correct?

03:13 - Peggy George
yes-you raise your hand if you want the mic and the moderator will turn your mic on

03:36 - Peggy George
I love the wide layout for viewing the chat because it moves so quickly

03:37 - Gigi
FIrst time for me too.

03:44 - Peggy George
Welcome to all of you!!

03:54 - Texas Titanium
thanks!

04:09 - Texas Titanium
Thanks Tammy for doing that

04:27 - Texas Titanium
I hear a dog!

04:28 - Peggy George
you can go back and forth between the different views. If we are sharing slides you may want to see them larger and that works best in the default layout.

04:34 - Texas Titanium
:)

04:39 - Peggy George
I love seeing the map with everyone's locations!!

05:13 - Patrick
don't see the laser pointer

05:17 - Patrick
nevermind

05:31 - Peggy George
I can only see my own too--wonder why?

05:32 - #liveclass20
Hm. I can't see anyone else's location...

05:41 - MB
Not sure...Settings?

05:48 - Gigi
I only see mine too

05:52 - SweetXOGrannie
all I saw was my dot

05:56 - Patrick
ditto

05:57 - Peggy George
that's a first--have never had a problem seeing all of the dots!!

06:01 - Shamblesguru
I only saw my loaction as well

06:07 - Corina Long
me too

06:15 - Peggy George
please type your location here in the chat room :-)

06:16 - mrm
Maybe it was a moderator only

06:25 - mrm
maybe it is a permission for the particiapants.

06:27 - Kim Flack
Arizona

06:31 - Patrick
Vancouver, Washington State

06:36 - rosanna claudia
philippines

06:36 - MB
I notice the session has been on for 11+ hours???

06:41 - Randall Fujimoto
Redondo Beach, CA

06:41 - #liveclass20
Hm.

06:42 - mrm
Illinois

06:44 - jackiegerstein
I call if life ; )

06:48 - jackiegerstein
it

06:49 - #liveclass20
What if we're not familiar with the term but can guess what it means? ;)

06:58 - Doug_Henry
Doug Henry from San Leandro CA (by SF)

07:03 - Peggy George
our channel is always available but our session usually begins about a half hour before the show begins

07:14 - SweetXOGrannie
ARG=AGR?

07:18 - Peggy George
excellent!! we are all in for a great learning adventure!!

07:27 - Peggy George
ARG-alternate reality gaming

07:38 - Kim Flack
say it out loud like a pirate?

07:46 - Peggy George
:-)

07:51 - MB
Kim, not seeing the stats...is that ok?

07:56 - #liveclass20
ARRRRG :)

08:04 - Peggy George
How exciting for you Chris to introduce so many people to ARG!!

08:13 - Chris Bigenho
Very Cool!

08:15 - sarah McPherson
can we see the results

08:15 - plnaugle
Hi everyone. Paula here from New Orleans on the 4th anniversary of Hurricane Katrina.

08:46 - Peggy George
when you type a message make sure you choose "This Room" so it goes to everyone and not just the moderators.

09:11 - plnaugle
Hi Chris.

10:16 - Peggy George
he'll be explaining what it means

10:48 - Texas Titanium
I'm in Dallas, Texas

10:52 - plnaugle
Sorry about that Peggy. I didn't see that The Moderators was selected instead of This Room.

11:09 - Peggy George
no problem Paula!! I do it too!!

11:58 - Peggy George
I was wondering about those 2 terms-alternate and augmented

12:46 - Peggy George
confluence of fact and fiction for learning--I can see why that would be very interesting for kids!

12:46 - Gigi
Sorry, I am trying to watch and read at the same time - I'm Gigi and I am in Lima, Peru

12:47 - plnaugle
ARG Alternate Reality Gaming - I will be learning about this for the first time today.

12:53 - Peggy George
Welcome Gigi

13:09 - plnaugle
I love games!

13:24 - Texas Titanium
I'll try to keep up

13:24 - Gigi
Thank you - this is like learning a new language. I hope I can follow it.

13:28 - Peggy George
I love games but I'm not very good at them!

13:50 - MB
Do we need to take notes? ;)

13:53 - jackiegerstein
Peggy - learning new tech tools is one big game (and a fun one at that)

13:56 - johncarmanz
do you keep a chart?

14:21 - Peggy George
I love the collaborative nature of these games

14:30 - jackiegerstein
Are you ready?

15:01 - Texas Titanium
Peggy - yes, very cool

15:06 - mrm
It is just like teaching.

15:14 - Texas Titanium
I remember going to google for the first time...

15:35 - Texas Titanium
Just like My first Starbucks!

16:24 - Patrick
get a mac

16:24 - Peggy George
runaway slides :-)

16:33 - mrm
yes

16:35 - #liveclass20
a little bit of it

16:35 - Jason
yes

16:36 - Peggy George
sort of

16:38 - Texas Titanium
firs 2 columns

16:39 - Sharla
yes, some

16:39 - Corina Long
yes

16:42 - Gigi
some

16:43 - Alternate Reality Games
a little

16:46 - Bet
some

16:56 - Linda
yes - email is at the end

16:57 - Texas Titanium
thats good read it

17:13 - Linda
HELP is going over most of the article

17:43 - Allison Pope
yes

17:57 - #liveclass20
there we go

18:02 - Linda
much better

18:17 - Peggy George
you can scroll down to see it all

18:43 - Peggy George
email address: deex2yu@gmail.com

19:09 - Peggy George
What do we do?? That is the question...

19:10 - Texas Titanium
Group

19:13 - mediaflo
1987

19:14 - Texas Titanium
Nov 22

19:17 - Allison Pope
yes

19:18 - mrm
November 22nd

19:21 - Patrick
1987 - Headroom - Air?

19:24 - Peggy George
Nov 22

19:25 - #liveclass20
it mentions a broadcast hack

19:26 - Linda
Friday February 27 - article date

19:26 - MB
Chicago

19:27 - Patrick
Chigaco

19:28 - Kim Caise
chicago

19:32 - mrm
Headroom

19:33 - Peggy George
Headroom strikes again!

19:33 - sarah McPherson
chicgo

19:33 - Texas Titanium
M4X??

19:37 - sarah McPherson
AIR

19:37 - Patrick
AIR

19:38 - Kim Caise
AIR

19:39 - Linda
Games for Play

19:40 - johncarmanz
m4x

19:41 - MB
Alliance??

19:43 - mrm
AIR

19:43 - mediaflo
innovative & creativity

19:44 - Patrick
no

19:44 - sarah McPherson
no

19:45 - #liveclass20
M4X is the person

19:48 - Texas Titanium
A.?

19:50 - Allison Pope
m4x

19:50 - Texas Titanium
I.?

19:52 - Texas Titanium
R.?

19:55 - Kim Flack
interactive resource?

19:56 - Alternate Reality Games
Search date, place, org in dtabase

19:59 - #liveclass20
Question - does Headroom refer to Max Headroom?

20:08 - SweetXOGrannie
email Dee Dee

20:09 - Patrick
not really, but I'd email dee

20:11 - Texas Titanium
google the date...chicago

20:36 - Kim Flack
can you put up the email address again?

21:35 - #liveclass20
I'm gonna go ahead and guess Alternate Internet Reality - or something along those lines.

21:40 - Peggy George
deex2yu@gmail.com

22:16 - Kim Flack
cool -- so just set it as an automated email response?

22:26 - Peggy George
yes

22:27 - jackiegerstein
Yes that is cool

22:31 - Texas Titanium
this is the actual "assignment"

22:38 - Texas Titanium
for the students

22:40 - Texas Titanium
...

22:54 - SweetXOGrannie
no email from DeeDee yet

23:01 - Peggy George
now we get to explore :-)

23:18 - Peggy George
http://athenaofzeus.wordpress.com

23:23 - Texas Titanium
email addresses could be shorter.

23:43 - plnaugle
I got my email back from dee.

23:49 - Jason
references to Greek gods

23:52 - MB
I did too

23:52 - SweetXOGrannie
I got it too

23:53 - Peggy George
yes any email address will work but good to include the name of the activity

23:54 - Kim Flack
love it!

24:05 - Texas Titanium
http://athenaofzeus.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/letter-backstory.jpg

24:21 - Texas Titanium
gotcha

24:34 - #liveclass20
Reminds me a bit of the "49 Clues" series.

25:03 - MB
3=e; 4=a

25:07 - mrm
3 = d

25:09 - mrm
e

25:10 - Kim Caise
http://athenaofzeus.wordpress.com/

25:16 - mrm
bah fast typers

25:27 - MB
0=o

25:29 - Allison Pope
E=3

25:31 - Texas Titanium
A. - Athena?

25:33 - Anne
American Instructional Reconstruction

25:36 - Allison Pope
3=e

25:40 - mrm
Max

25:43 - MB
So the guy is Max

25:51 - mrm
AIR

25:53 - Allison Pope
4=a

25:55 - #liveclass20
Alliance for Instructional Reconstruction.

25:59 - Jason
AIR = Alliance for Instructional Retro-deconstruction

26:01 - Linda
all educational innovation must be purified through fire?

26:06 - #liveclass20
It's Max Headroom! Hahahha!

26:07 - Barb from Oz
Alliance for

26:07 - laura Hier
cool rap video on DNA Biotech Nation video

26:08 - sarah McPherson
let it be known!!. Tody is the beginning of the end of innovation n education. the Alliance for instruction = AIR.

26:30 - Peggy George
what fun!!

26:44 - SweetXOGrannie
Bush?

26:47 - dave flack 1
Darth Vader?

26:51 - #liveclass20
Alliance for instrucitonal retro-deconstruction

26:51 - rosanna claudia
Alliance of Instructional Redeconstruction

26:56 - sarah McPherson
Alliance for Instruction Retron deconstrution

27:00 - Peggy George
guesses are good :-)

27:21 - Peggy George
presentations of innovation will cease on this day

27:24 - MB
Yes..wild

27:26 - SweetXOGrannie
yes

27:31 - plnaugle
Yes the screen melted away.

27:35 - Patrick
I can only multitask so much : )

27:44 - Linda
tinyurl.com/al7ahj

27:53 - SweetXOGrannie
the wikipedia article?

27:59 - Allison Pope
wikipedia

28:10 - Linda
it won't load

28:17 - Kim Flack
the window closed...

28:19 - Texas Titanium
can't get tiny

28:23 - mrm
htt;tinyurl.com/al7ahj

28:26 -
MB
jsut the letter, no?

28:40 -
Linda
Youtube is down- message

28:42 -
#liveclass20
getting a youtube vid

28:52 -
Kim Flack
youtube can't be down!! LOL

28:59 -
Jason
I got it

29:00 -
#liveclass20
Shafted enlightenment unleased on Ed Creativity

29:01 -
Sheila H.
got it if you type in the url

29:05 -
Maria Droujkova
worked for me

29:07 -
mrm
see, they are controlling all the web

29:09 -
Peggy George
don't you just love it!!

29:12 -
Kim Caise
http:

tinyurl.com/al7ahj

29:13 - #liveclass20
oo

29:17 - Peggy George
we've been hijacked :-)

29:19 - MB
Shafted Enlightenment Unleased on Educational Creativity

29:20 - sarah McPherson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkPvRdAdGOw

29:20 - #liveclass20
and a comment! ;D

29:26 - #liveclass20
How can we STOP THEM? ;)

29:28 - theresam
I went to Shafted Enlightenment Unleased on Educational Creativity

29:39 - Jason
older PowerBook, video is slow

29:55 - Linda
got - it is finally working

30:06 - Doug_Henry
leads to mxheadcase.wordpress.com

30:07 - MB
go to a blog at wordpress?

30:11 - #liveclass20
mxheadcase

30:14 - mimizhusband
very funny. "You've reached the end of the internet"

30:14 - Peggy George
bandwidth seems to be a bit of a challenge today--lots of little orange boxes

30:16 - Kim Caise
http://mxheadcase.wordpress.com/

30:40 - MB
last page on the internet???

30:48 - Peggy George
end of the internet is a very scary thought!! :-)

31:04 - Maria Droujkova
Like Cafe at the End of the Universe

31:15 - MB
He has a library thing as welll

31:19 - Maria Droujkova
My favorite is Darth Vader's Twitter

31:46 - Kim Caise
too funny!

31:59 - Anne
how is this different from webquests?

32:01 - MB
Mozart's library is on LibraryThing

32:01 - Peggy George
what a creative idea!!

32:04 - Kim Flack
perfect for 6 Trait writing

32:08 - Maria Droujkova
Most characters from "District 9" have blogs and Twitters (official movie maker campaign)

32:19 - Peggy George
roles and not the real person--students can take these roles too

32:19 - Kim Flack
John Adams has a Twitter too -- exploring the northeast coast

32:26 - mrm
WebQuests seem more defined

32:37 - mrm
everything is given to you

32:39 - Kim Caise
so cool!

32:41 - Peggy George
webquests are much more structured

33:01 - Linda
that is why we need to move away from webquests

33:05 - Maria Droujkova
Lincoln's Tweet on "Historic Tweets" http://historicaltweets.com/2008/12/04/lincoln-asks-twitter-followers-for-speechwriting-help/

33:06 - Texas Titanium
socratic

33:12 - Kim Flack
this process is teaching how to read all different forms of info on the internet too

33:18 - Linda
real life problems are not laid out so easily

33:23 - Jason
I like when kids are a bit confused and wondering what to do, most kids are far too spoon fed information

33:23 - Peggy George
Thanks Maria-excellent link!!

33:44 - Kim Caise
http://maxheadcase.wordpress.com/

33:51 - Peggy George
such a great point about learning--keep your task in mind always :-)

33:55 - Jason
he's a tweeter

33:56 - Patrick
He's distrubed

34:01 - SweetXOGrannie
he's on twitter

34:02 - Linda
AIR stands for Alliance for Instructional Retro-deconstruction

34:21 - Peggy George
his account was suspended for suspicious activity

34:27 - Kim Flack
oh no -- it says suspended due to strange activity

34:28 - Bet
no twitter account

34:43 - Maria Droujkova
His "Gallery of Inspiration" is VERY snarky: http://maxheadcase.wordpress.com/gallery-of-inspiration/

34:46 - plnaugle
I got a message that his account was suspended

34:52 - jackiegerstein
Max is actually NCLB

34:52 - Jason
must get one, very useful with students

34:58 - Patrick
Rough idea of how long it took you to string all of this together?

35:05 - Maria Droujkova
what's NCLB?

35:11 - Peggy George
No Child Left Behind

35:26 - Chris Bigenho
NAIS

35:32 - jackiegerstein
Maria - it has become the testing movement in US

35:42 - Texas Titanium
Patrick - great quesion...

35:44 - Jason
shifty character

35:46 - Linda
I did a similar project with -Dihydrogen Monoxide

35:47 - Maria Droujkova
ah, thanks, I just blanked on the abbreviation

35:53 - Maria Droujkova
Oh Linda

35:57 - Maria Droujkova
this is too funny

35:59 - #liveclass20
omg, I love dihydrogen monoxide ;D

36:02 - Linda
go to About me

36:06 - Allison Pope
max headroom

36:09 - mrm
Dan Rather is very young

36:12 - mrm
lol

36:15 - Doug_Henry
Nov 22 Dr Who broadcast hijacked

36:24 - Allison Pope
a prank

36:25 - plnaugle
He is his cousin.

36:26 - SweetXOGrannie
I clicked take me home and I can't get out!

36:39 - Peggy George
I can see we have some great gamers here!! I'm so slow!!

36:51 - Gigi
I have a video on how to use twitter and can't get rid of it. I know how the slow students in my class feel. I feel really dumb.

36:55 - mrm
he was wearing a mask

37:08 - plnaugle
Paula

37:20 - MB
Way to go, Paula!

37:21 - Allison Pope
He is the Leader

37:22 - Peggy George
Gigi-can you just close that twitter tab on your browser?

37:26 - Sheila H.
Inspired by the classroom of 1950's

37:36 - Kim Flack
i think the moderators still have that URL launched -- i'm on a twitter screen too

37:37 - Doug_Henry
Likes spanking

37:48 - Sheila H.
He likes scantrons

37:49 - SweetXOGrannie
I can't close twitter either

37:52 - plnaugle
Wants to stop creativity

37:53 - Jacqueline Chauser
This is some great satire

37:56 - Allison Pope
wants to eliminate creativity

38:09 - mimizhusband
there we go. Thanks

38:16 - Kim Flack
ty :)

38:18 - Gigi
Thanks

38:22 - Kim Caise
loves testing

38:24 - SweetXOGrannie
thanks

38:29 - plnaugle
Like old school teaching.

38:36 - mimizhusband
Must be an administrator

38:43 - Peggy George
what was our task?

38:57 - plnaugle
Hi MaryBeth.

39:01 - Linda
http://maxheadcase.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/test-question-cof.gif

39:03 - MB
who caused the fire, no?

39:22 - Peggy George
it is so easy to go astray once you're on the internet and you forget what you were looking for in the first place :-)

40:02 - Maria Droujkova
On the happier note, people llike me who got there late can still participate and have great fun without having any idea what the game is :-)

40:23 - Maria Droujkova
sorry about being late - I teach a class at that time

40:29 - Doug_Henry
Coming in late might be an advantage - fresh ideas

40:33 - MB
So the email is a sort of assessment?

41:01 - Peggy George
you'll find links to explore after the show in our gl.am links-- http://gl.am/kZxp9

41:23 - Kim Flack
ohhhh you could ask they write specific things in the emails -- that would be good formative assessment

41:40 - Peggy George
we'll post the recording to this session as soon as possible so you can go through this at your own pace :-)

41:50 - MB
send email

41:53 - Linda
find out who the 9 muses r

41:54 - Kim Flack
email Keeper

41:55 - Maria Droujkova
google muses

41:57 - mediaflo
find the names

41:58 - Jason
find out who the muses are

42:01 - mrm
Calliope, Clio 1, Melpomene, Euterpe, Erato 3, Terpsichore 1, Urania 2, Thalia 2, and Polymnia.

42:16 - Maria Droujkova
mrm wins two internets

42:22 - Peggy George
Love it!! hint, hint :-)

42:25 - Texas Titanium
not fair!

42:27 - Linda
the letter?

42:37 - Allison Pope
not yet

42:43 - mrm
Interesting that they are on Tariot Cards

42:59 - Jason
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muse

43:05 - Linda
link on the tab

43:12 - mrm
Tarot*

43:36 - Allison Pope
nine muses are there

43:42 - mrm
is the goal of this game for everyone to finish or for one team/person to win

43:43 - Peggy George
http://athenaofzeus.wordpress.com/about/

43:45 - #liveclass20
Hm. I'd thought that Thalia was one of the graces.

43:47 - Doug_Henry
Brings up the issue of how different learning types use Google...

44:16 - Kim Caise
keeperofsecrets.cr@gmail.com

44:17 - Peggy George
@Doug_Henry-definitely!!

44:37 - mrm
This reminds me of my D & D days

45:09 - Peggy George
Dungeons and Dragons?

45:14 - mrm
/rolls a 20 sided dice

45:21 - Maria Droujkova
Or MUDs

45:24 - #liveclass20
I rolled a FOUR!

45:30 - Maria Droujkova
Also text-based RPGs

45:37 - Kim Caise
http://drop.io/pot_of_gold

46:05 - Texas Titanium
password?

46:10 - Maria Droujkova
type the password please for spelling challenged

46:20 - Texas Titanium
got it

46:22 - jackiegerstein
it is not working for me

46:22 - Texas Titanium
in

46:30 - Texas Titanium
got it

46:32 - Chris Bigenho
cr34tivity

46:32 - Kim Caise
cr34tivity

46:33 - Peggy George
Password: cr34tivity

46:37 - sarah McPherson
cr34tivity

46:40 - Texas Titanium
window covered it... now i see it

46:42 - Kim Caise
it is on the slide behind the web tour

46:43 - Allison Pope
im in

47:27 - Maria Droujkova
we just overwhelmed their server, by the way - I got a warning message

47:32 - Doug_Henry
Since the game is open ended, you could begin it at the start of the year and continue throughout the term

47:34 - Jason
be careful using docx files

48:15 - Jason
freemind as well

48:22 - Linda
best to use google docs

48:41 - Maria Droujkova
these are pretty minds ther ein xmap

48:46 - Peggy George
so you can download those resources from the drop.io site?

48:47 - Gigi
When I download, am I downloading all of this stuff?

48:51 - MB
Chris, how long did this take you to put together?

48:54 - Doug_Henry
also cmap tools

49:20 - Linda
this seems fun, but

49:26 - Peggy George
yes cmap tools would work great for this!

49:29 - Kim Flack
are we able to access this particular game with our own students?

49:31 - Linda
I was wondering the same thing

49:31 - MB
my question exactly

49:50 - sarah McPherson
wow!!!

50:10 - Peggy George
could students create the ARGs or is it too complicated?

50:18 - Maria Droujkova
You are just tempted to create content as you go along (which is a great thing for kids)

50:18 - Jason
is there a repository of concepts somewhere?

50:25 - mimizhusband
I would bet that this is a learnable skill that at first takes longer.

50:28 - MB
Any of these blocked by the school systems?

50:35 - Allison Pope
Chris are you the Keeper of Secrets in this game?

50:40 - Peggy George
lots of resources for getting started and examples in our gl.am links today: http://gl.am/kZxp9

51:07 - #liveclass20
anyone else getting echo?

51:16 - sarah McPherson
it's ok now

51:24 - Texas Titanium
how do i turn off my mic?

51:25 - Maria Droujkova
someone turned their mike on for a sec (hence echo)

51:39 - Doug_Henry
It would be neat to have a template, into which you could insert characters and situations from their book reports, etc

51:39 - Peggy George
echoes sometimes come when we're sharing the mic--usually go away pretty quickly

51:41 - Texas Titanium
that was me

51:46 - Texas Titanium
gotcha

52:06 - Linda
Is there a listing of already created ARG's online that we could use with our students

52:16 - Peggy George
great question about minimum number of steps!

52:24 - Kim Flack
i like the concept -- i'd like to see how it could be used with specific historical concepts

52:35 - Peggy George
we have some examples of already created ARGs in our links

52:49 - Kim Flack
where is that at peggy?

52:57 - Allison Pope
How long should this game take? Did you say 1 hour to complete?

52:58 - sarah McPherson
thanks peggy - i'll take a look

53:05 - Kim Caise
http://gl.am/kZxp9

53:08 - Kim Flack
ty kim

53:11 - Kim Caise
yw

53:34 - Kim Caise
yes @allison, a little less than an hour

53:39 - mrm
Love the Ghostbusters reverence.

53:50 - Jason
it seems that this could be done well in Second Life as well

53:54 - Peggy George
this slideshare has some great suggestions for creating your own ARGs: http://www.slideshare.net/avantgame/make-an-alternate-reality-game

54:35 - Peggy George
science seems such a natural for this kind of game!

54:37 - Maria Droujkova
Math is so creative!

55:01 - Jason
even better to creat your own SL with OpenSimulator to make it a closed system

55:09 - Texas Titanium
any SIMs connection?

55:11 - Maria Droujkova
I think I will have one of my Math Clubs design one

55:12 - Doug_Henry
The slideshare link is excellent.

55:25 - Peggy George
this is an interesting example of a game about the world oil crisis: http://worldwithoutoil.org/

55:28 - Maria Droujkova
and then other Clubs will be able to use it...

55:31 - #liveclass20
I don't have a mic. How much "suspension of disbelief" are students willing to give? Does it need to seem real, or are they willing to "play along?"

55:41 - #liveclass20
*wave* I'm here. No mic tho.

56:11 - Kim Flack
yes -- and any connection to Second Life?

56:22 - Peggy George
lots of similarities to Second Life :-)

56:39 - Texas Titanium
ok

56:39 - Jason
you can certainly create the links and images in SL

56:41 - mimizhusband
my school would allow this, but not use of second life.

57:00 - Texas Titanium
gotcha

57:01 - Kim Flack
it is a good place for educator PD

57:02 - Peggy George
exactly!! alternative to SL environment!

57:06 - SweetXOGrannie
Chris, do you have a place for people to post things they do with this or find others doing?

57:21 - Texas Titanium
if live web...then everyone can access on any machine... good point

57:33 - Texas Titanium
agreed

57:53 - Jason
hmm, I think students feel comfortable in SL

58:00 - Peggy George
once we post this recording in the archives you could easily add comments and share ideas and resources for how you are using this: http://live.classroom20.com/archives.html

58:08 - Texas Titanium
clearly...you can bring in current events too

58:12 - MB
Again, blocked by school systems?

58:16 - Doug_Henry
Youtube has simple navigation - not often used

58:23 - Maria Droujkova
I bet once this becomes more widespread, there will be more platforms specifically for it

58:43 - Jason
could use cell phones using SMS, Twitter, email, etc.

58:46 - Texas Titanium
inter-school competition?

58:54 - Texas Titanium
Country based competitions?

58:56 - Peggy George
I like the fact that you don't need to purchase special software or programs to make this work

59:03 - MB
Yes! Bowls!!!

59:07 - Linda
i like that too - free is great

59:15 - Texas Titanium
Peggy - yes... anyone on any machine type

59:18 - sarah McPherson
This has been great! Gives some good ideas for making intruction more interesting

59:22 - Gigi
Free is perfect for most teachers!

59:23 - Linda
what age group is this best with?

59:25 - mimizhusband
why not interscholastic competitions?

59:35 - Peggy George
that's good advice about not trying to do this with a whole class playing as one large group

59:38 - Texas Titanium
mimi- yes that sounds great

59:41 - SweetXOGrannie
Is there a way to do this w/o web access?

1:00:05 - Jason
maybe smart phones

1:00:15 - Jason
text messaging

1:00:19 - Maria Droujkova
Sweet, you can do it on Sugar computers locally, probably

1:00:24 - Texas Titanium
sound just stopped

1:00:28 - Peggy George
you could probably create these games with PPT using them like "choose your own adventure" stories

1:00:35 - Texas Titanium
on my machine

1:00:39 - Kim Flack
good idea peggy!

1:00:40 - SweetXOGrannie
Sugar does have a built in set of resources

1:00:41 - Anne
What abour River City Project

1:00:54 - Kim Flack
cult like? gaming community :D

1:00:55 - Peggy George
but ppts control the options so much more than the internet exploration would provide

1:01:02 - sarah McPherson
exactly - choose your on adventure - or CLUE on the web

1:01:10 - Maria Droujkova
Transfer media via usb sticks, I am thinking

1:01:24 - mrm
wow, choose your own adventure

1:01:25 - SweetXOGrannie
that could work on Sugar

1:01:30 - Linda
What age is this appropriate?

1:01:34 - Allison Pope
Thank You

1:01:38 - Peggy George
where did the time go??!! did someone take it??

1:01:43 - Allison Pope
Thank You

1:01:49 - Gigi
This was really interesting, thanks.

1:01:55 - Bet
Thank you

1:01:59 - Peggy George
We have lots of things we can continue to explore following the show. :-)

1:01:59 - Maria Droujkova
Athena is magical with time, Peggy

1:02:08 - sarah McPherson
What is Sugar?

1:02:22 - Maria Droujkova
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/

1:02:30 - SweetXOGrannie
Sugar is the OS used on the XOs

1:02:41 - Maria Droujkova
Now on any old computer, Sweet

1:02:44 - Peggy George
recording and follow-up links will be posted here as soon as available: http://live.classroom20.com/archive.html

1:02:48 - Maria Droujkova
"Sugar on a Stick"

1:02:53 - Maria Droujkova
or new computer

1:02:54 - sarah McPherson
thanks

1:03:04 - SweetXOGrannie
Maria...do I know you???

1:03:12 - sarah McPherson
I'll check it out - learned soooo much today

1:03:13 - Peggy George
wikis are a great suggestion for this!!

1:03:30 - Peggy George
we have the 39 clues link in our links today

1:03:41 - mrm
I think ARGs can be adapted to any age level, but you have to keep in mind the technology.

1:03:55 - Maria Droujkova
You might, Sweet :-) @mariadroujkova on Twitter etc.

1:04:06 - Peggy George
good point mrm!!

1:04:23 - Maria Droujkova
I can see five year olds doing it in my Math Club

1:04:33 - Jason
my son's class has a class set of iPod touches, could be useful for something like this

1:04:33 - Peggy George
we'll wrap up the show for now and if Chris is willing to stay on we can keep asking questions

1:04:54 - sarah McPherson
i can see any age if you just know what your kids can do and like to do

1:05:02 - Gigi
I am really new to web2.0, where can I go to start really simply?

1:05:03 - Maria Droujkova
Yeah Chris, where is your network we can join?!

1:05:03 - SweetXOGrannie
Maria I am on twitter as SweetXOGrannie

1:05:31 - mrm
If anything Chris, we should be posting our ARGs on Web 2.0

1:05:33 - Peggy George
excellent Chris--thanks!!

1:05:45 - mrm
the educational ARGs

1:05:54 - jackiegerstein
This is great - way cool!

1:06:01 - Peggy George
we'll keep the recording going if you need to leave so you can catch what you missed later

1:06:03 - Barb from Oz
BYE - and thanks

1:06:28 - plnaugle
Can't believe Labor Day is right around the corneer.

1:06:32 - Chris Bigenho
you are welcome

1:06:37 - Chris Bigenho
I will stay for questions after

1:06:38 - Kim Flack
ty so much!

1:06:38 - johncarmanz
thanks for an informative hour

1:06:40 - plnaugle
Love Prezi.

1:06:41 - MB
Kim, is the 1st part of RSS in the archives?

1:06:43 - Maria Droujkova
Thanks so much for organizing this. Hugely useful

1:06:45 - Chris Bigenho
I see several in the text as well

1:06:45 - Kim Flack
i appreciate all the great info!

1:06:45 - #liveclass20
Thanks Chris!

1:06:48 - Sharla
Thanks

1:06:51 - mimizhusband
thanks

1:07:02 - Peggy George
not yet

1:07:04 - mrm
Yes, thanks for the great ideas.

1:07:14 - mimizhusband
yep

1:07:15 - Maria Droujkova
Just turned everybody's mikes on and we will have a free-for-all :-)

1:07:16 - Jason
yes

1:07:17 - plnaugle
Thankyou Chris and moderators for another great session.

1:07:19 - Peggy George
yes now

1:07:19 - Gigi
yes

1:07:22 - #liveclass20
Chris, have you used ARGs in class - and if so, what age group did you use them with?

1:07:23 - sarah McPherson
good show - Thanks - now to try something for myself

1:07:30 - mimizhusband
now gone

1:07:31 - Allison Pope
Yes we can

1:07:38 - Linda
Thnak you - I am excited to share this at a librarian professional development workshop I will be doinginSeptember

1:07:50 - mimizhusband
there they are

1:07:57 - Linda
I don't see any slides

1:08:02 - mimizhusband
gone again

1:08:05 - Chris Bigenho
Excellent Linda

1:08:11 - Chris Bigenho
check out the links to the NAIS ARG site

1:08:14 - Peggy George
I'm really excited about the PBS show with principals!!

1:08:19 - Chris Bigenho
you will find all you need to play the gaem

1:08:22 - Chris Bigenho
game

1:08:36 - dad
bye...going to work

1:08:44 - dad
thanks Chris

1:08:46 - Gigi
Is all this stuff on the calendar?

1:08:47 - Chris Bigenho
you will also find in the POG, a document that will alllow you to lead a workshop with this game

1:08:56 - Chris Bigenho
bye dad

1:09:07 - Peggy George
there are some fantastic webinars and interviews coming up!!

1:09:16 - Maria Droujkova
great

1:09:19 - Peggy George
yes all of these events are on our calendar

1:09:28 - Peggy George
http://live.classroom20.com

1:10:02 - Randall Fujimoto
chris, if the elluminate session closes, how can we ask questions?

1:10:09 - Peggy George
http://live.classroom20.com/archive.html The recording and gl.am links will be posted here very soon

1:10:17 - Chris Bigenho
the session will stay open

1:10:19 - Sheila H.
Great session. Thanks.

1:10:26 - Maria Droujkova
thank you

1:10:30 - Kim Caise
http://gl.am/kZxp9

1:10:31 - Peggy George
http://gl.am/kZxp9

1:11:20 - Peggy George
that is the key--since they are browser based they aren't hardware intensive!

1:11:36 - Maria Droujkova
some measurement devices, for example (e.g. temperature)

1:11:47 - Peggy George
there are so many skills you can build into the process while playing these games!

1:11:49 - SweetXOGrannie
Yea!

1:11:54 - Gigi
Thanks,bye

1:12:03 - Tammy Moore
I have bee making story based mysteries for chemistry and biology for my kids this last year that we solve collaboratively in Elluminate. I had not thought about stretching it out across the net. That would be fun especially for the students that are taking my course asynchronously. Brain gears whirring.

1:12:06 - SweetXOGrannie
Can it be made so the teacher can customize it to the locale?

1:12:13 - Peggy George
Chris do you have any suggestions for ways ARGs could be used in Chemistry, Physics?

1:12:30 - Maria Droujkova
Tammy, can you link a couple of examples?

1:12:47 - Linda
What is the POG?

1:12:55 - Linda
TY

1:12:57 - Peggy George
Q&A session with Einstein! What a great idea!

1:13:03 - Jason
you could have laws of physics talking to others

1:13:03 - Maria Droujkova
Q&A session with Shroedinger's Cat: "Are you really there?"

1:13:09 - Jason
chemicals as well

1:13:12 - Tammy Moore
They are designed to be very interactive but I have VoiceTHreaded a few to give the asynchrnous students some of the fun.

1:13:16 - Tammy Moore
I will get a link in a bit

1:13:33 - Peggy George
@Tammy--keep those brain gears whirring! and be sure to share your ideas!!

1:13:57 - Peggy George
Voicethread would be a great alternative for playing the games

1:14:15 - #liveclass20
Is Chris still here?

1:14:19 - Jason
depends on district

1:14:22 - SweetXOGrannie
yes

1:14:25 - Linda
You will have to ask your IT person to allow specific websites

1:14:32 - Peggy George
Chris is talking now

1:14:48 - #liveclass20
sry - my audio goes in and out

1:14:55 - mrm
You should be able to ask your tech coordinator to allow access to those sites

1:15:17 - Peggy George
schools tend to allow TeacherTube but it has gotten so slow!!

1:15:22 - mrm
yes

1:15:26 - mrm
I'm on Schooltube atm

1:15:31 - Jason
ask to have url on whitelist

1:15:36 - Randall Fujimoto
ARG dissertation by Adam Lloyd Brackin from Univ of Texas, Dallas

1:15:40 - Randall Fujimoto
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/files/brackin_tracking_the_emergent_properties_of_the_collaborative_online_story_deus_city_for_testing_the_standard.pdf

1:15:56 - Peggy George
you may need to build a case for getting some of these sites unblocked once you have a clear vision of what you want to do with them

1:16:33 - Peggy George
A ning community for ARG would be fantastic!

1:16:53 - Jason
great conf

1:16:56 - Maria Droujkova
ISTE, NECC

1:17:32 - mrm
Peggy, Kim, and Chris thanks for a great conf!

1:17:44 - mrm
enjoy your Saturday everyone

1:17:45 - Kim Caise
thanks mrm for joining us today

1:17:48 - Peggy George
would love to have you do that Chris!!

1:18:01 - Kim Caise
be sure to post at learncentral too

1:18:05 - Peggy George
we can spread the word through Classroom 2.0 LIVE and Twitter

1:18:13 - Chris Bigenho
bigenhoc@greenhill.org

1:18:15 - Linda
What is your twitter?

1:18:21 - Peggy George
LearnCentral would be a great way to share the resource!

1:18:21 - Chris Bigenho
cbigenho.unt@gmail.com

1:18:22 - SweetXOGrannie
Maria, I sent you a friend request on FB

1:18:26 - Chris Bigenho
bigenhoc

1:18:58 - Maria Droujkova
Maybe an email Google Group at least

1:19:22 - Peggy George
this has been so valuable to see how games like this really can be fantastic learning experiences--far beyond just fun things to do

1:19:33 - Linda
I look forward to your Ning

1:19:51 - #liveclass20
I don't have a mic

1:19:53 - Linda
Thanks - this was a great presentation

1:20:10 - Tammy Moore
Here is an example of how you could use Facebook as an artifact - http://gawker.com/5185909/

1:20:11 - Kim Caise
no problem live, you can type your question

1:20:15 - #liveclass20
oh! okay.

1:20:24 - #liveclass20
...

1:20:41 - #liveclass20
there we go

1:21:45 - Kim Caise
live, did you type your question?

1:21:57 - #liveclass20
oh, I was going to wait until called on - but I can go ahead now :D

1:22:01 - theresam
thanks for everything. very interesting.

1:22:15 - Peggy George
what a great example Tammy!!

1:22:40 - Jason
it seems that storytelling is a key factor in making a good ARG, but I suppose that comes as you do it more and more

1:22:41 - #liveclass20
How much are students willing to "play along"? I mean, do you need to make it seem REALLY REAL or do they kind of go with it? and does the age affect how much they play along?

1:23:29 - Peggy George
I think it would be easy to get caught up in the story!

1:23:48 - Peggy George
especially when there are no "right" answers!!

1:23:53 - jackiegerstein
and it depends on the attitude of the teacher.

1:24:07 - Peggy George
good point jackiegerstein!!

1:24:12 - Randall Fujimoto
"This is not a game"

1:24:20 - Tammy Moore
Gotta run - family coming today for meal and a movie, so I have to get pizzas on. Loved the presentation and definitely feel inspored to stretch bio and chemysteries that stretch beyond the boundaries of the Elluminate classroom environment for the asynchrnous students. :0)

1:24:33 - Peggy George
do you call them games to the students?

1:24:42 - Kim Caise
take care tammy

1:24:45 - Peggy George
thank you so much Tammy!! have fun with your family!!

1:25:07 - jackiegerstein
That will come across to the students

1:25:18 - Jason
Chris, do you start out the class telling students they are playing a game, or dive right into the lesson and let the kids figure it out?

1:25:21 - Peggy George
puppetmaster is a new term for me

1:25:42 - Linda
good question, chris

1:26:00 - Peggy George
I'll bet students would love to continue playing these games outside of the school day

1:26:14 - Linda
with DHMO, I made them think everything was real

1:26:27 - Kim Caise
that way you kill two birds with one stone per se

1:26:32 - Jason
anything to get students extending the school day is worth trying

1:26:40 - Peggy George
I agree Jason!

1:27:28 - Peggy George
problem based learning--important term to use when describing this

1:27:41 - Jason
Chris, please see my question above

1:28:19 - Peggy George
could you retype your question Jason?

1:28:24 - Randall Fujimoto
http://www.amazon.com/This-Not-Game-Alternate-Reality/dp/1411625951

1:28:28 - Peggy George
is it the one about storytelling?

1:29:31 - Peggy George
that's great advice Chris--let our colleagues and administrators know what we're up to :-)

1:30:07 - Peggy George
Jason: Chris, do you start out the class telling students they are playing a game, or dive right into the lesson and let the kids figure it out?

1:30:41 - Peggy George
yes I think you answered that one

1:30:52 - Jason
yes, thank you

1:31:02 - Peggy George
thanks for that explanation about puppetmaster--makes sense now

1:31:34 - Peggy George
so glad you are mentioned Understanding by Design--big questions are so important!

1:31:54 - Linda
like when you said hint hint

1:32:19 - Randall Fujimoto
It would seem like a great learning activity would be to have students design their own ARG

1:32:28 - Linda
Thanks- enjoy the rest of your weekend

1:32:32 - Maria Droujkova
Thank you, Chris!

1:32:37 - #liveclass20
It seems like the difficulty would be aligning it to skill-based standards...

1:32:37 - Peggy George
if you use Moodle you could easily create this kind of game and have private groups for students to collaborate on solutions

1:32:40 - Winnie
Thank you

1:32:41 - Jason
I'm good, thanks so much

1:32:53 - Peggy George
This has been great Chris!! Thank you so much!!

1:32:54 - Chris Bigenho
you are very welcom

1:33:03 - Chris Bigenho
bigenhoc@greenhill.org

1:33:03 - #liveclass20
Thanks!

1:33:06 - #liveclass20
*wave*

1:33:10 - Chris Bigenho
cbigenho.unt@gmail.com

1:33:10 - Randall Fujimoto
Thank you!

1:33:13 - jackiegerstein
Thanks so much!

1:33:15 - Peggy George
See you in 2 weeks with Steve Dembo re Prezi

1:33:16 - Chris Bigenho
twitter @bigenhoc

1:33:22 - jackiegerstein
Say goodbye to your dog.

1:33:25 - Jason
will do

1:33:35 - SweetXOGrannie
Thanks Chris... looking forward to your Sugar/XO version

1:33:36 - Peggy George
bye everyone

1:33:43 - Chris Bigenho
by mom

1:33:57 - Jason
will we get a transcript of this?

1:34:14 - Kim Caise
the chat log will be posted on our site late this weekend

1:34:14 - Peggy George
bye "mom"-it's so great to have you in the room with Chris!!

1:34:21 - Chris Bigenho
thanks

1:34:21 - Jason
great

1:34:25 - Chris Bigenho
this was fun!

1:34:27 - Kim Caise
at http://live.classroom20.com

1:34:58 - Kim Caise
http://gl.am/kZxp9

1:35:05 - Peggy George
This worked really well on Elluminate, Chris. Thanks!

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