May 13, 2009 5:00:31 PM - CLASSROOM 2.0 BEGINNERS SERIES


00:04 - Kathie
New Jersey here

00:06 - jansmith
Wow, what a crowd!

00:07 - PeggyG
let's vote again

00:24 - joevans
St. Francois Xavier, Manitoba, Canada here.

00:32 - Shane Morin
@WickedDecent Is that Dan or Jeff

00:34 - andyfisher
1am in the Uk - good to be here

00:36 - PeggyG
Hi John!

00:42 - Doug H
I dont think that's a jaguar...

00:42 - joevans
Hey Peggy!

01:00 - Steve Hargadon
Great crowd!

01:15 - PeggyG
I'm so excited that we will have several chances to learn all of this!

01:26 - Steve Hargadon
What time is it in Australia?

01:35 - andyfisher
great blog - edublogger

01:37 - Jane
Good morning!

01:50 - joevans
7:02 in the evening here.

01:59 - mrsdurff
she is totally famous

02:00 - rmanmiller
8pm in NJ

02:07 - elaineb
It is nice to see a picture to match the voice!

02:09 - yenorb@gmail.com
7pm in WI

02:10 - mrsdurff
8:02

02:12 - Chandell
2 pm in Hawaii

02:16 - BeckyTengs
5:02 -- Oregon

02:19 - PeggyG
There are so many fantastic resources on her blog!!

02:38 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
10.02 am in Wodonga, Victoria, Australia

02:49 - PeggyG
that dot never goes quite where you put it :-)

02:50 - mrsdurff
she swims

02:51 - dorothyjburt
12pm Thursday Auckland. NZ

02:55 - Kathy Matthes
Los Angeles

02:56 - BeckyTengs
Beaverton, Oregon

02:57 - azrtf
az

02:59 - Karen Lampe
I'm from Creston, Iowa

02:59 - Fran L
Old Lyme CT USA

03:03 - Shane Morin
Lewiston, Maine

03:04 - MacBerry
Toronto

03:07 - PeggyG
Phoenix, AZ

03:09 - Sue Waters
Edublogs community facilator

03:09 - murielb 1
No Carole - independent school in Mt Eliza. Just really lucky to have this period off so that I can join in.

03:09 - Heidi
Hello all from western NY state in US

03:10 - Doug H
Teach K-12 computers in San Leandro, CA

03:13 - DiannC
Virginia Beach VA, USA

03:14 - plnaugle
Hi everyone. Paula from New Orleans, LA USA.

03:15 - Christina
Hampstead, New Hampshire - USA

03:15 - andyfisher
Norwich, Norfolk, UK - actually on east coast but the magic wand wandered!

03:17 - mrsdurff
head learner according to the other learners

03:17 - aforgrave
Ontario, Canada

03:18 - Judi Roach
judi; nebraska 4th grade teacher

03:19 - gspeer
San Antonio, TX Instructional Technology Specialist

03:19 - clguarino
yreka calif, but i can't find the pointer

03:19 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
I am an elearning coach and mentor

03:19 - jansmith
West coast Canada, teacher of Grade 6, blogging with my students

03:20 - Fran L
Teacher (7,8), teacher educator

03:20 - Jane
Fryeburg, Maine

03:21 - Michele
Canton Michigan HS. USA

03:22 - Kathy Matthes
Adjunct faculty for two online colleges

03:24 - elaineb
Kingston, PA- northeastern PA or, as the tourist bureau now wants to call it: Upstate PA....

03:24 - dorothyjburt
eLearning Literacy Facilitator (District)

03:25 - Pam
Pam-Rochester Minnesota

03:26 - sara crawford
Phoenix, AZ - Teacher

03:26 - Gail 1
Gail: middle school library media specialist - New Haven, CT

03:26 - Steve Hargadon
Sacramento, CA

03:27 - Mary Ellen Lynch -Montreal
Hi I'm in Montreal, Quebec Grade ONe teacher and have an classroom blog

03:27 - BeckyTengs
Preservice Elementary School Teacher

03:28 - Heidi
K -12 Technology Mentor

03:28 - Robin Ricketts
richmond, VA, USA, second grade teacher

03:28 - rmanmiller
K-12 tech integration spec nj

03:29 - Christina
Technology Integration Specialist K-8

03:29 - Chandell
Hilo, Hawaii (Big Island)

03:29 - Chris Cooper (e4TN)
Chattanooga, TN

03:29 - PeggyG
retired elementary principal and university teacher education instructor

03:29 - Jean King
Art teacher in Houston Texas

03:30 - joevans
St. Francois Xavier, Manitoba, Canada - Professional LEarning Consultant with Man. Edcuation

03:31 - Ackygirl
Brisbane, Education Officer Learning Management for Catholic education

03:31 - Penny
muscatine Iowa

03:32 - bdon
Instructional Technology Specialist K-%

03:32 - Barb from Oz
Melbourne, Australia

03:32 - mireille
toronto, canada

03:33 - Sandra
junior high librarian in central TX

03:33 - Suzanne Baraff
Suzanne from Pacific palisades, California media center director

03:35 - mrsdurff
Hagerstown, MD, USA

03:35 - plnaugle
4th grade math and English teacher.

03:36 - Ordepo
Eastern North Carolina USA

03:36 - Kathy H
Punta Gorda, Fl-teach science & math

03:39 - Elise
Elise: from New York

03:44 - joevans
;-)

03:47 - triciabrooks
high school spanish teacher

03:53 - Kathie
Kathie: River Vale, NJ

03:54 - kim caise
San Antonio, TX and semi-retired instructional technologist and current grad student

04:22 - Barb from Oz
Melbourne, Australia

04:37 - PeggyG
what a great variety of experience in our group today!

04:44 - jacq
From Charles Sturt Uni Wagga

05:13 - mrsdurff
Oh I have a position for me = head coffee drinker

05:15 - andyfisher
that's my phone!

05:29 - mrsdurff
she found it

05:40 - murielb 1
Where are you from Barb?

06:06 - mrsdurff
that would be Peggy

06:16 - PeggyG
if the chat is moving too fast for you to follow you can change your view to wide layout

06:29 - mrsdurff
GO PEGGY!

06:31 - Ackygirl
is this when we avoid eye contact?

06:35 - Barb from Oz
Newport - a suburb of Melbourne

06:39 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
no wbd tools yet

06:40 - PeggyG
no text tool

07:14 - Sue Waters
LOL

07:26 - Steve Hargadon
What we're doing by putting up our own answers is Web 2.0.

07:33 - Mary Ellen Lynch -Montreal
Hi susan

07:34 - mrsdurff
YEAH CAROLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

07:49 - PeggyG
great Carole!

08:07 - Sue Waters
yes

08:09 - Sue Waters
:)

08:10 - Chandell
yes

08:11 - jansmith
yes you did

08:13 - mrsdurff
yes

08:25 - rmanmiller
so cool to see the thoughts out there

08:28 - PeggyG
@Ackygirl--how did you know we were avoiding eye contact? so true!-hands start sweating when someone says take the mic!

08:45 - Ed Bujak
Web 3.0 is the semantic Web - cannot wait fo rthis!

08:53 - andyfisher
headphone would resove that

09:12 - Kathy Matthes
Hi Steve. Thanks for starting these beginner sessions!

09:24 - kevinmurphy775
I napped when 2.0 came on.. I used it, but did not have the name

09:43 - Steve Hargadon
@Kathy: the credit goes to Sue and the ladies of Classroom 2.0 live! (Peggy, Kim, and Lorna). :)

10:06 - Kathy Matthes
Yes, I sent them (and you) email about this, so I'm glad to see it happened.

10:25 - loonyhiker
i'm hoping to introduce wikis to my grad class so i'm interested in seeing the process of teaching others about wikis

10:39 - mrsdurff
Web 1.0 - needed a language like html

10:40 - PeggyG
@Kathy-it was your email that prompted this next step! Thank you so much!

10:47 - mrsdurff
or CSS

10:49 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
WEb 1.0 - one way information Web 2.0 - two way collaboration

10:54 - kevinmurphy775
I just do not get WIKIS

10:56 - Kathy Matthes
@Peggy - that's so cool! :-)

11:03 - elaineb
Loonyhiker- do I recognize that name from images4education?

11:11 - Steve Hargadon
Sorry! I was tweeting!

11:13 - mrsdurff
increasingly now in Web 2.0 anyone can publish to the world

11:22 - loonyhiker
@elaineb yes, i think i'm the only loonyhiker :)

11:31 - Kathy Matthes
This is perfect for my K-12 teachers!

11:33 - Fran L
Tried to use wikis with other teachers, but they seemed mostly scared to try. Too unfamiliar?

11:36 - elaineb
That was a great course!

11:51 - Heidi
oh boy, trying to make meatball for weekend party and might have mixed up the spices while listening!

11:52 - Ed Bujak
@kevinmutphy775 - wikis are a great collaborative tool - easy for contributions adn interaction - no HTML (OK minimal HTML)

11:53 - loonyhiker
@elaineb i learned so much

11:59 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
way back I had to learn how to use Dreamweaver to get my content on the web, now I can simply create a wiki and publish anything

12:03 - Kathy Matthes
@ Fran - yes, I find teachers and college faculty are scared of using wikis.

12:03 - PeggyG
@loonyhiker! so great to see you here!

12:06 - loonyhiker
wikis r so easy to edit

12:09 - loonyhiker
thx peggy

12:10 - elaineb
@loonyhiker: me too and I love it!

12:27 - joevans
Can we share our twitter IDs? I'm @joevans

12:27 - murielb 1
I'm still having nightmares about dreamweaver!

12:36 - Steve Hargadon
I haven't done a very good job organizing!

12:38 - PeggyG
many people are afraid to use wikis because they think they will mess it up--but they won't!

12:40 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@murielb - I hear ya

12:41 - loonyhiker
i'm loonyhiker on twitter and plurk

12:42 - rmanmiller
some teachers may be afraid of not being the "keeper of the knowledge"

12:51 - Susanvg
I'm @susanvg

12:53 - joevans
Dreamweaver? How about Front Page! <shudder> ;-)

13:03 - plnaugle
I'm plnaugle on Twitter and Skype.

13:11 - Kathy Matthes
@ Peggy - that is so true! They are really easy to use. I'm now using them in my online classes!

13:21 - Jean King
I'm jea999 on twitter

13:27 - Shane Morin
hurumble on twitter

13:40 - Barb from Oz
barbvee on twitter

13:45 - Ed Bujak
Forget Dreamweaver adn Font Page .. how about notepad? :) It i salways nice to know a little HTML.

13:50 - Jean King
Ack! That's @jean999 on twitter

13:51 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
Web 2.0 requires a new 'mind set

13:54 - kevinmurphy775
There is just SOOO much to do! so little time (especially with a family)

13:56 - jacq
I'm @jacqsreport

13:59 - andyfisher
andyleefisher on twitter

14:00 - Heidi
I'm chavesh on twitter

14:12 - Steve Hargadon
@durff shameless tweet!

14:19 - Judi Roach
judi @judiroach

14:25 - PeggyG
the great thing about a wiki is one person doesn't have to create all of the content like on a website

14:27 - Steve Hargadon
I was tweeting out this show's link!

14:28 - kevinmurphy775
kick?

14:31 - joevans
Hi @susanvg. Think we met in Wpg for MS Innovative Teachers Conf.

14:38 - Steve Hargadon
Me again?!

14:43 - BarbInNebraska
Thanks Steve for the Tweet!

14:45 - mrsdurff
yes you

14:45 - jane Curry
Do you think teachers are scared? I think they are lazy

14:47 - aforgrave
@aforgrave

14:58 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
Steve can you let us see the ticks and crosses

15:00 - kevinmurphy775
kick?

15:01 - mrsdurff
a pick is a check

15:11 - mrsdurff
a cross is an 'x'

15:14 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
green tick = check mark

15:19 - Susanvg
@joevans - never been to Wpg - but I follow you on twitter

15:21 - Ackygirl
yay! chocolate... I'm sure it's milk chocolate

15:21 - judibea
?

15:26 - mrsdurff
chocolate?

15:31 - mrsdurff
dark?

15:36 - Barb from Oz
super-dark?

15:38 - Susanvg
dark chocolate, I hope

15:40 - Karen Lampe
Where do you go for checks and crosses?

15:41 - bdon
I don't see scared or lazy, just busy

15:43 - Sandra
visible

15:50 - Ackygirl
hehehe... oh no don't say dark chocolate to Sue

15:53 - joevans
Chocolate ! No worry of it melting if you send it here. - 4 C tonight

15:54 - jansmith
@durff, she's not a dark choc girl--she's into milk.

15:56 - clguarino
all i have to do is click on the check mark. am i supposed to be putting a picture on the board?

16:00 - loonyhiker
@karen at the top left of your screen

16:01 - aforgrave
Sue -- I AM wondering about receipt of chocolate over the Internet! (??) Virtual chocolate, I presume?

16:04 - Kathy Matthes
Sorry - what was the question?

16:07 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
howeever we cannot see the ticks as they appear

16:14 - Susanvg
checks and crosses at top

16:18 - PeggyG
I'm confused--don't know how to add my mark

16:20 - Susanvg
above participant list

16:25 - Shane Morin
hahaha, are we all 4th graders?

16:26 - judibea
Blog--yes but not with students

16:41 - judibea
Wiki: yes--and wanting to improve skills

16:45 - PeggyG
didn't know what a tick and cross meant-sorry

16:52 - judibea
Social bookmarkig--diigo

16:54 - Chris Cooper (e4TN)
under Tools and Windows menus

16:56 - mrsdurff
go steve!

17:17 - Kathy Matthes
@ PeggyG - look up at the top left of the menu. You'll see a check and a cross

17:33 - PeggyG
got it-thanks Kathy

17:37 - mrsdurff
DARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

17:52 - Michele
dARK!

17:55 - PeggyG
that's a take-charge person!! :-) Go Sue!

17:56 - jane Curry
Just starting with wiki

17:56 - aforgrave
Steve is eating chocolate ...

18:00 - Sue Waters
go for it

18:03 - jansmith
Dark

18:08 - Mary Ellen Lynch -Montreal
i like dark chocolate

18:12 - plnaugle
@Durff How are you this evning. Just ate a Dove dark chocolate.

18:13 - mrsdurff
she is peggy - she scares me

18:13 - aforgrave
Dark cholocate letters on a dark chocolate board ...

18:14 - Kathy Matthes
dark

18:22 - PeggyG
that was evil!

18:23 - Shane Morin
white is the best, despite not being chocolate

18:24 - Laura Fullerton
poor steve

18:28 - jansmith
Is it a north american thing

18:30 - Mary Ellen Lynch -Montreal
don't know what micorblogging is??

18:30 - mrsdurff
@pnaugle - fine

18:41 - joevans
Now craving chocolate! Any kind is fine by me!

18:43 - mrsdurff
and you?

18:46 - clguarino
can we get rid of the pictures on the board?

18:46 - jansmith
@Mary Ellen--twitter or plurk

18:49 - rmanmiller
@christina do you have a twitter account?

18:57 - Susanvg
@maryellen - microblogging is twitter or plurk

18:58 - mrsdurff
i have dark choc doves

18:59 - andyfisher
microblogging - twitter or other limited character im

19:05 - judibea
click the teek? I'm not hearing well

19:06 - mrsdurff
can I lie?

19:13 - clguarino
twitter or what?

19:30 - PeggyG
see-we're all beginners at something!!

19:32 - mrsdurff
plurk

19:34 - Cindy Zautcke
Click the "check."

19:34 - Steve Hargadon
Shameless!

19:35 - Kathy Matthes
LOL

19:36 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
Steve, you'll get a pallette of colours at bottom when you choose the A tool

19:36 - BarbInNebraska
ok, now I finally get how to give my answers!

19:38 - joevans
Hey Jeramy Gatza. It hasn't warmed up in Wpg since you left!

19:47 - clguarino
haven't even heard of plurk

19:52 - Mary Ellen Lynch -Montreal
it is so cool to hear Sue Water's voice

19:53 - jansmith
Is this virtual chocolate?

19:54 - loonyhiker
i'm in desperate need of chocolate

20:05 - loonyhiker
@clguarino i really like plurk www. plurk.com

20:06 - mrsdurff
she does scare me

20:10 - jane Curry
so yummy

20:11 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
:-)

20:11 - judibea
Virtual chocolate? calorie free?

20:11 - PeggyG
this is an amazing language experience--mucking up??

20:12 - Steve Hargadon
Oh, really!!??

20:16 - elaineb
I got some great chocolate for mother's day!

20:19 - Judi Roach
sorry, i am not successfull at getting this

20:22 - BarbInNebraska
Plurk is good for longer conversations

20:25 - Jeramy Gatza
@joevans that's what I heard!

20:36 - loonyhiker
@BarbInNebraska hi barb!

20:40 - mrsdurff
@Judi it's alright - she's hilarious

20:45 - Mary Ellen Lynch -Montreal
i don't understand plurk yet

20:47 - murielb 1
Hang in there Judy - it gets easier. You can play it all back and digest it later too.

20:48 - plnaugle
@durff will have to leave early because going to dinner.

20:51 - andyfisher
very pretty!

20:52 - BarbInNebraska
@loonyhiker, hello!

21:01 - PeggyG
http://suewaters.wikispaces.com

21:02 - BarbInNebraska
Started our Wiki in February and LOVE IT

21:08 - mrsdurff
@pnaugle enjoy your meal

21:09 - joevans
Sue I share your PLN Yourself wiki with teachers ALL the time!! Love it!

21:15 - Judi Roach
barb in NE, where in NE i am in Sidney

21:16 - jansmith
@Mary Ellen--I have not "got" plurk either

21:31 - Mary Ellen Lynch -Montreal
hi jansmith

21:48 - andyfisher
wisdom of crowds makes wiki a stable format

21:54 - Sue Waters
go for it

21:56 - Kathy Matthes
It's Hawaiian

21:56 - leslie
hawaii

21:56 - Suzanne Baraff
hawaiian for quick

21:58 - Doug H
Hawaiian - fast

21:59 - BarbInNebraska
quick quick from Hawaii

21:59 - teryl72
Adam Curry

21:59 - Shane Morin
let me look it up on wikipedia

21:59 - jacq
Hawaian for fast

21:59 - plnaugle
what I know is

22:00 - fohara
Hawinannin name

22:00 - Debi
fast in hawaiin

22:01 - Jean King
It means quick

22:01 - Ackygirl
or NZ

22:01 - Christina
Hawaiin saying right

22:01 - Robin Ricketts
Hawaiian

22:02 - rmanmiller
hawaiian

22:04 - Kathy Matthes
wiki wiki

22:05 - jorech
hawaiian for quick

22:06 - PeggyG
I have no idea where wiki came from

22:07 - Jane
hawaii - means "quick"

22:08 - teryl72
he coined podcast

22:08 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@joevans - I hear ya - saves creating materials - just send em to SueWaters wiki

22:10 - Christina
means quick quick

22:16 - Sue Waters
go for it

22:28 - PeggyG
fascinating! so glad to know that

22:34 - andyfisher
dukes of hazard

22:34 - mrsdurff
she gets an 'A'

22:35 - Denise
I didn'y know that!

22:39 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
its a red car so it MUST go really fast

22:42 - Chandell
Wiki Wiki - Bus

22:50 - clguarino
any connection to wikipedia

22:52 - loonyhiker
i will use this wiki in class!

22:59 - joevans
HEre's a photo of the bus - http://onewisdom.pbworks.com/WhatsaWiki

23:33 - Mary Ellen Lynch -Montreal
gosh - @ jansmith.... it went great! Thanks

23:37 - PeggyG
very cool image John!! love it!

23:41 - jane Curry
I use pbworks

23:53 - BarbInNebraska
I use Wikispaces

23:58 - mrsdurff
many faculty to allow it

23:58 - Jane
Thanks Joe, I love that picture!

24:01 - Doug H
MediaWiki is not the easiest interface

24:01 - leslie
Thanks for the bus!

24:02 - minischaef34
too many peeps can edit wikipedia

24:03 - Ackygirl
helps understand the changing nature of knowledge and info

24:05 - Steve Hargadon
The discussion and history tabs are amazing resources.

24:13 - Suzanne Baraff
good but need to validate info on 2-3 other sources and check for links

24:13 - mrsdurff
adamantly against it

24:23 - Kathy Matthes
It's not credible for college papers, but it's a good place to start. Then we encourage students to find credible sources.

24:27 - Debi
Wikipedia gives good links to other sites

24:27 - Dean
in-accruate, plagarism, surface learning, low quality, lack of peer review, unscholarly - but I like it

24:30 - loonyhiker
i think wikipedia is a great way to teach critical thinking - they check out references

24:34 - PeggyG
I heard Michael Wesch say that wikipedia is the perfect place for teaching students about how to evaluate content

24:44 - sdpankhurst
Good general information - always check facts and opinions from wikipedia

24:45 - Jeramy Gatza
we are charged with the duty, nay responsbility, to teach our students how to use these digital/social media tools.

24:46 - Shane Morin
I had a college professor that had a great line "Wikipedia - it's excitable but not citable"

24:46 - congerjan
would rather them use databases

24:50 - murielb 1
Our Yr 12's take great delight in posting absolute rubbish about our school on Wikipedia

24:52 - mrsdurff
PEGGY!

24:53 - Sue Waters
grab the mic

24:54 - Erin in PA
great for current information, great way to demonstrate to students that cross referencing is important

24:58 - Dean
its a news channel

25:02 - andyfisher
I think wiki fear = IT fear - it's far more stable than some suggest - sorry can't do mic because my wife is asleep in same room - type only tonght

25:03 - Pam
it is a good place to find that initial exposure to content--helps kids find other more credible sources

25:05 - plnaugle
Good place to get some general info. but need to know that it is credible.

25:09 - Dean
how do u do that Karen?

25:17 - Fran L
A student just pranked Wikipedia by deliberately posting a fake quote by a famous guy who just died - and a bunch of newspapers promptly published the quote as if it was gospel. See my post at www.franblo.edublogs.org.

25:18 - sdpankhurst
our school IP is banned from our school wikipedia page

25:21 - Penny
a librarian told me he saw a report that WIkipedia is as accurate as another major long standing dictionary.

25:22 - Doug H
Somme topics are very dynamic - always changing...

25:23 - minischaef34
i agree

25:25 - meacherteacher
I have heard that errors in wikipedia are corrected within a matter of seconds

25:30 - clguarino
my opinion exactly

25:34 - mrsdurff
difference btw surface web and deep web

25:37 - jacq
My studestn use wikipedia as a starting point for an overview and then go to find citable sources.

25:37 - minischaef34
i keep my 4th graders away from it for research

25:40 - Kathy Matthes
It's an incredible commentary about social publishing, but it's not always credible because anyone can edit anyone else's posts.

25:51 - jane Curry
Students don't have enough english

25:55 - mrsdurff
Wikipedia is the surface web

26:00 - Ordepo
it's a dinamic document

26:03 - triciabrooks
provides general info. but needs additional sources

26:06 - Dean
:)@MrsDuff

26:06 - Ackygirl
it's a great starting place for research

26:08 - Karen Lampe
Can you put up the URL for your wikispaces again?

26:08 - sdpankhurst
use wikipedia to get keywords for futher searching

26:11 - mrsdurff
databases are the deep web

26:12 - meacherteacher
I find that it can be an overwhelming amount of information for 4th graders - better to have more age appropriate sources

26:19 - Sue Waters
go for it

26:19 - joevans
Wikipedia is a first stop. Student's need to check other sources. Wikipedia and Brittanica were compared http://tinyurl.com/4honf5

26:20 - Jane
Can be a great place to find sources.

26:22 - andyfisher
The effort involved in disrupting wiki is counter productive because t's so easy to revert -back - I think the wisdom of crowds wins out

26:23 - fohara
promotes group work

26:26 - leslie
I love it as a first place to start.

26:27 - Dean
its a base point for metacognitive improvement of knowledge

26:33 - Fran L
I encourage students to use Wikipedia to find good links, but don't let them use Wikipedia as a formal research source.

26:45 - Kathy Matthes
@ Fran - yes, exactly.

26:48 - Carol Arc
@leslie - I agree

26:52 - mrsdurff
Sue is modeling collaboration possible in Web 2.0 = fabulous!

27:02 - Dean
books are full of errors

27:02 - Jane
We treat is as the "encyclopedia" that it is.

27:06 - Kathy Matthes
But wikis are GREAT as teaching tools.

27:06 - jacq
For students it is still so much better than the garbage they get from commerical media sources!

27:07 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@KarenLampe http://suewaters.wikispaces.com/

27:08 - Dean
esp text books

27:17 - leslie
I think even Wikipedia knew about Sarah Palin before we did.

27:21 - Ackygirl
@dean text books = yuck!

27:23 - PeggyG
some people tell their students they need to validate the information from at least 3 other sources

27:33 - Doug H
The knowledge is "in the network"

27:35 - joevans
Wikipedia is updated far more often with accurate information than any other online source I know of

27:38 - Kathy Matthes
@Peggy G - that's a good strategy.

27:39 - Karen Lampe
Thanks, Carole!

27:42 - mrsdurff
i teach em how to validate

27:44 - Carol Arc
compare it to today's books. Books are so outdated that their content is not real anymore.

28:02 - Dean
non academic in terms of scholarly work - so excluded from many courses

28:04 - Ackygirl
my page was deleted :( dont' add random cocktails with out posting to other sources first

28:06 - Shane Morin
oh yes

28:13 - plnaugle
@peggyg Love the idea of 3 validations.

28:13 - Dean
Firery Red Leather

28:13 - Steve Hargadon
There's one really easy thing you can do.

28:14 - BarbInNebraska
I have! I used my son's account tho.

28:20 - PeggyG
what Sue is describing about editing wikipedia is the same way many people feel about editing any wiki

28:23 - Jeramy Gatza
try to find twitter, or facebook, or wikis, (or Obama) in a textbook...not that they have had any impact on our world

28:25 - triciabrooks
I guess that is the difficulty-keeping information current and up to date

28:25 - plnaugle
No I have never edited it.

28:26 - Ackygirl
@dean - yes... so sad

28:35 - Dean
get a wiki page - make it better - is a valid use

28:48 - Steve Hargadon
Add a reference--it's easy and non-threatening.

28:56 - Carol Arc
absolutely

29:00 - congerjan
I have edited my high school wiki page

29:03 - andyfisher
scrutiny for all sources is a key skill - wiki is no different

29:09 - meacherteacher
It is good practice to have kids validate sources - even whether starting from wikipedia or not

29:15 - Ackygirl
is there a page about Sue?

29:16 - kim caise
i added several resources for videoconferencing/web conferencing

29:22 - Dean
http://wiki.bssd.org/index.php/Main_Page - this is the BEST school wiki I've seen - run by eskimos

29:27 - Sue Waters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schools_and_universities_project

29:49 - loonyhiker
my course syllabus and assignments are all on my wiki

29:54 - Carol Arc
caveat emptor - consumer beware - you have to use your best judgement.

30:02 - Doug H
Like software, information is fast, cheap, reliable - pick any 2

30:05 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@Ackygirl point to Sue's name in the participant area to see details about Sue

30:41 - Dean
62 Deluxe Beetle

30:43 - bdon
@Dean you are right about BSSD

30:44 - Jeramy Gatza
love pbworks!

30:45 - Barb from Oz
I find that a good rule of thumb is to ask for two non-connected corroborating sources...

30:45 - Bee
Wikieducator also gives you this possibility of collaborating with OER and student projects

30:47 - Dean
US Spec

31:07 - Dean
with 356 Porsche Rims - noice work Sue

31:09 - PeggyG
have any of you used the school wikipedia started in the UK I think? http://schools-wikipedia.org/

31:16 - kim caise
and curriwiki

31:20 - clguarino
are any of them free downloadables?

31:24 - mrsdurff
i like wikispaces

31:29 - jansmith
When did PB wiki change names, why?

31:30 - BarbInNebraska
I use wikispaces

31:31 - meacherteacher
I like wikispaces too

31:34 - PeggyG
they are all free

31:35 - Bee
they are online

31:43 - kim caise
pbwiki changes names about a month ago

31:44 - jansmith
Wikispaces is my choice too

31:45 - Dean
Deki-Wiki - implimenting this one as University Wiki right now

31:51 - joevans
PBwiki became PBworks about a month ago.

31:53 - Bee
and wikispaces allows you to export all your material should you decide to go elsewhere

31:53 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@clguarino - you use the wiki's online - no need to download anything

31:59 - Dean
Deki - has desktop/Word upload tools

32:05 - clguarino
like edublogs

32:06 - jansmith
I like the history and discussion tabs like wikipedia

32:06 - congerjan
I like wikispaces too.

32:06 - Dean
Save to wiki, not to hard drive - easy as

32:13 - Penny
Can you limit who can edit?

32:17 - Dean
Deki is open source

32:19 - BarbInNebraska
@penny yes

32:22 - Penny
ty

32:22 - jansmith
@penny yes

32:23 - meacherteacher
@Penny yes

32:32 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@Penny - yes you can set different permissions for your wiki users

32:40 - mrsdurff
mmm food

32:41 - jacq
back soon....

32:47 - Ackygirl
peanutbutter and chocolate :)

32:50 - plnaugle
I've used these but tend to use PBWorks the most.

32:53 - jansmith
(I haven't had dinner yet)

32:54 - meacherteacher
You can leave it wide open, or let only invited people edit, or keep it to yourself

33:25 - seani
http://www.wikispaces.com/ also has great services for teachers

33:28 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
META: some wiki sites are blocked in school networks in Australia e.g. wetpaint

33:32 - Kathy Matthes
Wikispaces only provides free accounts to K-12 educators; they are not willing to give college teachers free accounts.

33:41 - Sue Waters
http://www.wikispaces.com/help+Teachers
http://wikisineducation.wetpaint.com
http://www.publicpbwikis.com/educational

33:42 - Kathy Matthes
So I use WetPaint.

33:49 - joevans
My intor to wikis always states "If you can type, you can make a wiki!"

33:49 - Dean
are wikis for n00bs ya think Sue?

33:53 - meacherteacher
Will a recording of this session be available (might have been mentioned already, I was late)

34:03 - Bee
WetPaint provides you with forums as well I think

34:08 - PeggyG
so true John!

34:08 - kim caise
yes, recordings will be available

34:12 - Dean
which would you say is the best 'entry' one?

34:15 - Kathy Matthes
@Dean - what are n00bs?

34:16 - Dean
PB?

34:20 - Ackygirl
I like wetpaint... but it doesn't embed as much as wikispaces

34:22 - Karen Lampe
Will there be a copy of her powerpoint?

34:24 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@Dean yes I think they work well for new elearning travellers

34:27 - kim caise
noobs, newbies, new people to technology

34:28 - Kathy Matthes
WetPaint seems to be very easy for my students to use.

34:29 - Bee
nOObs are newbies

34:45 - mrsdurff
choc?

34:47 - plnaugle
Come on Durff.

34:47 - PeggyG
that chocolate is tempting :-)

34:47 - Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@KarenLampe you can save all these slides by using the File Save Whiteboard - save as PDFs

34:48 - Lorraine Leo
I like PB Works --I think that it's because it is the one that I feel most comfortable with. It's all what you are used to.

34:49 - Steve Hargadon
What's all this mysterious talk about chocolate?

34:50 - Mary Ellen Lynch -Montreal
@lorraine leo - hi from MOntreal

34:55 - judibea
I am trying

34:59 - loonyhiker
i love pbworks

35:00 - seani
forgot who asked for the link

35:01 - seani
http://suewaters.wikispaces.com/

35:05 - kim caise
wetpaint has a more colorful interface

35:09 - Dean
i kicked off with PD wiki a few years ago - made lots of mistakes

35:12 - plnaugle
I don't have my mc left it at school.

35:12 - fohara
I used wet paint...because it was introduced to me...It works...good

35:13 - Dean
but learned

35:13 - Sue Waters
yes guve ne a rest

35:15 - judibea
usernames and paswords no e-mails

35:17 - mrsdurff
i don't prefer them., but initially they were the adfree ones

35:18 - Kathy Matthes
I use WetPaint because it is easier to use that Wikispaces. WetPaint gives college teachers free accounts. Wikispaces refuses to do that.

35:21 - Michele
I have never tried any so can't speak on it

35:25 - Erin in PA
libraryscientists.wikispaces.com <-- the wiki I set up for my middle schoolers

35:28 - Steve Hargadon
Wet Paint does discussion / social networking, but it confuses me.

35:29 - seani
Karen Lampe

35:30 - meacherteacher
@MaryEllen Lynch - I think we have met. I am in Eastern Townships

35:32 - mrsdurff
now wikispaces has adfree for teachers

35:33 - Bee
wikispaces has great support for k12 teachers and students (no ads either)

35:34 - loonyhiker
i think pbworks is easier than wikispaces or wet paint

35:36 - PeggyG
I think we're most comfortable with the wiki we start with and use. I love wikispaces! :-)

35:40 - Dean
I don't like 'wiki-code' - take a degree of skill to make it look great

35:41 - minischaef34
sorry i had a 5 month old talking away here

35:45 - minischaef34
what is the topic right now?

35:47 - minischaef34
wikis still?

35:49 - kim caise
it is very difficult to embed documents in wetpaint wikis

35:51 - Sue Waters
wikis still

35:55 - minischaef34
thank you

35:57 - mrsdurff
a wiki dangerous?

35:57 - Sue Waters
http://www.wikispaces.com/help+Teachers
http://wikisineducation.wetpaint.com
http://www.publicpbwikis.com/educational

35:57 - Dean
I use Google Sites for PD - thats a great integrator wiki

36:02 - PeggyG
the whole show is about wikis

36:04 - mrsdurff
forsooth!

36:05 - joevans
In 2007 school was a featured wiki on PBwiki http://tinyurl.com/qeft2q

36:06 - triciabrooks
have only tried wiki space. would love to learn about the others.

36:08 - Ackygirl
what about age restrictions?

36:08 - andyfisher
it's al witchcraft - we must be purged!

36:14 - Steve Hargadon
This show and the next two are about wikis!

36:14 - yenorb@gmail.com
I agree Google Sites rocks

36:17 - mrsdurff
oi veh

36:21 - Penny
I am considering using a Wiki for a special end of the year "newspaper" for my Language arts students. I am considering using a wiki and I only want them to be able to edit it. I have never done a wiki, but I understand the concept well. I know I can embed all kinds of fun apps, voki and blabberize for them to tell their stories. Do you think a wiki would be a good tool for this?

36:25 - loonyhiker
here is mine http://loonyhiker2.pbworks.com/

36:28 - Sue Waters
just remember that there is lots of wikis and choose the righ tone for your use

36:30 - Barb from Oz
so far the Vic webmonsters have left wikispaces open...

36:34 - kevinmurphy775
I like the tools pic on your wiki

36:35 - minischaef34
i have a wiki for my 4th graders' science project

36:39 - leslie
@Dean I was wondering about google sites??

36:39 - meacherteacher
I think I ran into age restrictions with one of them. I have no problem with 4th graders on wikispaces

36:45 - joevans
Going green with a wiki is the way to present!

36:47 - andyfisher
it's all witchcraft - we must all be purged!! The administrators know best!!!

36:48 - Pam
what about kids younger than 13?

36:55 - PeggyG
@Penny--that is a fantastic idea for your end of year newsletter--it's so easy to embed things on wikis!

36:56 - kim caise
a wiki would be a great tool @penny. you can set various pemissions for what users can do

36:59 - minischaef34
my fourth graders use it

37:00 - BarbInNebraska
How do I put a link in this room?

37:09 - Dean
Goole sites integrates really well for teachers via Gmail (school based email logins)

37:13 - loonyhiker
i just copied and pasted the link

37:13 - kim caise
type http: in front of the URL

37:14 -
Steve Hargadon
Wikispaces lets you create student accounts without their email addresses.

37:15 -
Judy C
Yes, we're having issues with under 13 as well. How are you handling it?

37:16 -
seani
@pam wikispaces will create accounts for kids under 13

37:17 -
mrsdurff
drag Barb

37:18 -
PeggyG
you can just copy/paste a link here @Barb

37:18 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
Here's one that we use for digital storytelling: http://digitales.wikispaces.com

37:21 -
plnaugle
@meacherteacher Is that York, PA?

37:22 -
BabyCakes
Hey, is Jean King still here?

37:24 -
BarbInNebraska
HOw do I paste?

37:28 -
triciabrooks
How do you use the wiki in the curriculum to foster collaboration?

37:30 -
mrsdurff
yes

37:31 -
loonyhiker
right click

37:32 -
Sue Waters
yes we can Judy

37:33 -
Jean King
yeah, I'm here

37:35 -
meacherteacher
@Pam my 4th graders have accounts on wikispaces

37:39 -
BabyCakes
it's sue!

37:40 -
clinds
Sorry I just arrived so hope I'm not repeating. I use wikispaces and really like it. The only problem is I have the free version and am trying to add student videos. The files can only be 20 MB and when you're using FLV files it gets over 20 MB fast. Any other wiki tools that let you have bigger video files?

37:47 -
BabyCakes
is this a meeting for teachers?

37:48 -
loonyhiker
@barb right click in the text box

37:49 -
kim caise
control and V to paste the entire URL here in the chat window barb

37:54 -
Jean King
Hey you! in MN?

37:55 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@BarbinNebraska - just use control c to copy then control v to paste

37:56 -
BarbInNebraska
I'm on a Mac

37:58 -
Dean
learned a lot Sue @ gotta go - nice crowd!

38:03 -
BabyCakes
yep

38:05 -
Sue Waters
see ya Dean

38:07 -
Jean King
cool

38:18 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@BabyCakes - this is for everyone - wiki enthusiasts

38:18 -
Carol Arc
interesting

38:21 -
jane Curry
Using wiki for teachers to access about information on excursions they can take their sts on.

38:22 -
meacherteacher
@pinaugle I'm in Eastern Townships in Quebec

38:29 -
mrsdurff
no email in high school? 5th graders have email

38:35 -
Penny
Kim and Peggy, thank you for the response :D

38:44 -
kim caise
you are welcome.

38:45 -
BarbInNebraska
http://smmroom113.wikispaces.com/

38:46 -
andyfisher
start small - then expand onc you have one platform under your belt?

38:47 -
mrsdurff
wake up call

38:57 -
BarbInNebraska
yeah! I did it!

38:59 -
plnaugle
@minischaef34 I teach 4th grade in New Orleans.

39:01 -
clguarino
so do you use wikis for less interactive material?

39:02 -
BarbInNebraska
Thanks for you helps!

39:15 -
BarbInNebraska
*your* help!

39:16 -
minischaef34

39:17 -
mrsdurff
@Barb YEAH!

39:18 -
Shane Morin
lack of macness

39:20 -
bdon
Our district will not allow us to link to outside blogs and wikis. Must stay with OSX server tools.

39:21 -
minischaef34
thanks!!

39:23 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@clguarino a wiki will enable the upload of all types of multi media

39:28 -
kparkhill
I've used wikis to post leveled assignments that the entire grade level can access

39:32 -
kim caise
you can use a wiki to create a simple website and eventually expand to allow users to edit

39:33 -
Fran L
Our school admin don't want students to use email at school, so no email accounts. The gmail workaround is very time-consuming. And if kids forget the password they changed to, you've lost that student ID.

39:34 -
Carol Arc
I have trouble with embedding an igoogle calendar. It's larger than the screen. Any suggestions?

39:38 -
aforgrave
windows = lack of macness

39:39 -
PeggyG
you can use a wiki as a website but it's so much more powerful when it's collaborative

39:40 -
minischaef34
hi kparkhill

39:40 -
mrsdurff
I don't speak Mac fluently

39:43 -
derrallg
@bdon do you use Apple's wiki?

39:47 -
kim caise
and you can set which pages are editable and which are not

39:51 -
loonyhiker
i love the flexibility of the wiki

39:55 -
Penny
would you say a wiki can do most of what a regular web page can do?

39:56 -
plnaugle
@meacherteacher I have 4th graders too.

39:59 -
kevinmurphy775
embed in a calender? woah!

40:00 -
Carol Arc
@peggy and it's free.

40:01 -
andyfisher
fear the fear!!

40:01 -
kparkhill
hi mini!

40:03 -
joevans
The storage on Wikispaces is far superior to PbWorks but I really like the built in feature on PBworks to have a link open in a new tab. Text formatting is not a strong point in any wiki I've used.

40:05 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@CarolArc - change the size to fit the page

40:14 -
bdon
Yes I use Appple's wiki. Just not as feature-rich

40:15 -
Ackygirl
is the wiki text the same as on wikipedia?

40:15 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@Penny - absolutely

40:15 -
clguarino
it looks similar to the tools on edublogs

40:24 -
kim caise
with pbwiki you don't need email accounts for student logins. i think wikispaces is similar but i know for sure pbwiki is that way

40:28 -
Jane
Sue, is there a good source on the Web for using Wikitext?

40:35 -
PeggyG
you don't need to use the programming language to get started-I just use the visual editor

40:43 -
Penny
Carole , ty :D

40:44 -
BarbInNebraska
I love how I can just play around with it until I figure it ou!

40:48 -
kim caise
similar editors on wikis and edublogs

40:52 -
BarbInNebraska
*out*

40:53 -
Kathy Matthes
Yes

40:53 -
PeggyG
yes

40:57 -
clinds
@bdon - Is it hard to set up blogs and wikis on OSX server?

41:15 -
jansmith
I found that pbwiki behaves differently in FireFox and Internet Explorere

41:19 -
bdon
No, it is simple.

41:24 -
joevans
I've shown many administrators how to use a wiki as their school web page. 8/9 schools in our division use PBworks as their school web page.

41:25 -
minischaef34
wikis are so easy and fast to edit

41:36 -
kparkhill
just make sure the kids know what they can and what they can't edit

41:56 -
minischaef34
kp, i havent even told them that they can edit it yet...you can do that next year

42:00 -
plnaugle
@minischaef34 Glad you made it.

42:01 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@clinds - no idea on that one - maybe contact the FAQ for your selected blog provider

42:01 -
andyfisher
very functional - like it

42:02 -
Carol Arc
Sometimes my editing of "headings" is funky and doesnt take the first time.

42:03 -
mrsdurff
there is a history @kpark

42:12 -
Steve Hargadon
"A Web page with an edit button." Simple definition of a wiki by Adam Frey.

42:13 -
mrsdurff
they cannot mess this up

42:13 -
meacherteacher
@kparkhill yes, we have big talks about respect of other's content

42:21 -
meacherteacher
but you can get it back if they mess it up!

42:23 -
kevinmurphy775
I just refreshed the wiki in another window and it was instantly added

42:29 -
Penny
I found this great site that helps you compare wikis by answering a few questions, it was really cool http://www.wikimatrix.org/wizard.php

42:30 -
PeggyG
I like that definition Steve!

42:31 -
Chandell
Do any of the Wiki's lock a page so that is can only be edited by one person at a time?

42:33 -
mrsdurff
one does have to show them how

42:35 -
kparkhill
true.....its a great lesson for them to learn

42:56 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@ PeggyG - thats a great tool - I recommend it

42:58 -
Ackygirl
on wetpaint there is a discussion forum at the bottom of each page

43:06 -
mrsdurff
they are upset when someone overwrites their stuff

43:07 -
Steve Ransom
My students used the discussion tab a great deal and loved it for collaboration/negotiation of page content.

43:12 -
joevans
All wikis only allow one editor at a time. Wikispaces has an option to lock pages so only the wiki organizer can change it.

43:21 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@Chandell - in Wetpaint I can lock certain pages so that only I can edit them

43:22 -
kim caise
there is also a history log of who makes changes and when in case you need documentation of something what was done to the wiki

43:22 -
PeggyG
yes you can lock any page you like on a wiki (protected)

43:22 -
mrsdurff
and then are so happy when you show them it is still there

43:33 -
mrsdurff
just revert

43:48 -
Penny
eek,,only one editor at a time?

43:48 -
clguarino
does it get hard to manage the board?

43:50 -
PeggyG
that reversion history has saved me many times!

43:54 -
Steve Ransom
You can leave page editing locked, yet enable discussion for all visitors.

44:06 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
:-)

44:07 -
minischaef34
but to do that discussion, they need to have accounts?

44:07 -
kim caise
sure thing sue

44:10 -
mrsdurff
@ciguaron no not hard

44:11 -
clinds
I noticed that wikispaces sets up a wiki e-mail account for students which I don't want. Any way to get rid of that?

44:20 -
PeggyG
no worries Sue-people in the chat are answering the questions too

44:22 -
Steve Ransom
@minischaef34 no

44:26 -
Michele
Okay, I tried to save a page as Sue said. Then when I tried to open it, it wouldn't open. It said it wanted to know what program that created it. Can someone help???

44:31 -
mrsdurff
@mini all my kids have accts

44:32 -
Steve Hargadon
If you email wikispaces, they will add all your students in without email addresses.

44:35 -
minischaef34
so i can just give them usernames?

44:39 -
kparkhill
i give all my kids a fake email address...they use mine with a number added to it

44:41 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@minischael34 yes you need to have a wiki account username to enter and change pages in most wikis

44:43 -
kim caise
with pbwiki you can use a student login that isn't an email account

44:51 -
kim caise
i believe you can do the same with wikispaces too

44:54 -
minischaef34
yes, ive done that...with google...but do they need to access or remember that email?

45:07 -
mrsdurff
@mini no

45:17 -
jane Curry
I wonmder about the copy rights when using cut/parte from the web

45:21 -
kim caise
no need for email if you use student login names and passwords

45:21 -
mrsdurff
just remember their username + password

45:25 -
minischaef34
thanks @mrsd!

45:28 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@Michele do you mean save the whiteboards - you need to make sure that they are saved as PDFs - hope this helps

45:49 -
kim caise
same copyright and creative commons/fair use guidelines apply to all content as with wikis

45:56 -
Chandell
Mahalo! We had students come into the lab to edit their projects. The first time we had partners adding their pages at the same time from different computers. Each time one partner saved they overwrote their previous partners work.

46:03 -
clguarino
can you do your input in word and then insert it into the wiki

46:11 -
minischaef34
yes

46:12 -
mrsdurff
i think they are all 3.0 now

46:18 -
kparkhill
Opps!

46:20 -
minischaef34
insert document

46:27 -
loonyhiker
i do copy and paste from word

46:27 -
PeggyG
yes you can copy and paste from Word into wiki but formatting isn't always the same

46:34 -
Jane
@chandell, we had that too! How can you change that?

46:38 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@clguarino you may be best to compose your wiki page content in a web composer or use Notepad

46:40 -
kim caise
you can edit in word but it can be double work and it doesn't copy well due to the html formatting

46:41 -
BarbInNebraska
I ended up making a jpg for an appleworks document

46:44 -
PeggyG
yes, use a notepad or texteditor

46:53 -
meacherteacher
I think wikispaces has a function to paste from Word, doesn't it?

46:53 -
Chandell
what is the mac version of notepad?

46:56 -
clinds
Sorry I don't mean registering for wikispaces with student e-mail addresses. I mean that once students have a wikispace account it makes a wikispace e-mail for them which I don't want since I can't monitor that as well as content on the wiki.

46:59 -
Kathy Matthes
So copy Word text into Notepad and then copy that text into the wiki?

46:59 -
Steve Ransom
textedit

47:03 -
Karen Lampe
Is there anything you can use directly on a Mac?

47:06 -
yenorb@gmail.com
mac version is textedit

47:08 -
loonyhiker
i never thought of using notepad

47:10 -
Lorna
textmate can e used as wel

47:11 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@KathyMatthes - yes that will work well

47:12 -
Michele
Thanks!! I did need to save as pdf. That worked!

47:14 -
Chandell
Thanks

47:16 -
PeggyG
I love that feature of notifications of changes to a site. You can subscribe to all changes

47:17 -
kim caise
yes kathy if you are not creating in the wiki itself

47:20 -
jane Curry
@kim caise: Thanks

47:20 -
Ackygirl
how long are these sessions?

47:24 -
tlparker
is textedit saving in .rtf?

47:27 -
Kathy Matthes
Thanks.

47:27 -
kim caise
each session is an hour

47:27 -
yenorb@gmail.com
neo office probably works too

47:32 -
kim caise
you are welcome jane

47:39 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@Ackygirl 60 minutes - we have 12 to go

47:46 -
Kathy Matthes
What about saving Word files as plain text?

47:58 -
kim caise
it is very easy to create and edit in the wiki itself. no need to create in another document

48:01 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@tlparket - from Notepad you get a .txt file

48:04 -
Ackygirl
@Carole thanks

48:08 -
Sue Waters
no sound :(

48:10 -
mrsdurff
oops no mic

48:12 -
aforgrave
TextEdit will save in a variety of formats, and will retain codes, too, unless you use .txt format ...

48:16 -
mrsdurff
sorry

48:27 -
kim caise
you can do that kathy but if you have links, bold text, etc. you lose that and have to redo it.

48:36 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@KathyMatthes - yes you could do that - but why not just enter your text directly into a wiki page - saves time

48:38 -
Kathy Matthes
@ Kim - thanks.

48:40 -
kim caise
it is easiest to create in the wiki whenever possible

48:41 -
PeggyG
one challenge with wikis is that two people can't edit a document at the same time like you can on Google docs

48:49 -
mrsdurff
kids love collaboration

48:54 -
Kathy Matthes
@ Carole - yes, I do that, but my students may not.

48:58 -
andyfisher
that kid doesn't!

48:59 -
sal
I am thinking about using a wiki for school communication with parents instread of the "white envelope"

49:02 -
jane Curry
Has she got a tassie devil in the room?

49:02 -
mrsdurff
and she has her hands full

49:04 -
Mary Ellen Lynch -Montreal
@susanvg--- I didn't use my headset...

49:07 -
Denise
Teachers coming into staff room for lunch. Have to go. Thanks Sue

49:08 -
Kathy Matthes
So it helps to tell them to put it in Wordpad first and then paste into wiki.

49:10 -
Susanvg
great wiki site to learn about wikis http://gettingtrickywithwikis.wikispaces.com/

49:30 -
mrsdurff
only 98

49:34 -
triciabrooks
I am unable to add my comments

49:34 -
Carol Arc
great audience

49:41 -
PeggyG
yes Kathy

49:42 -
Michele
Have not used Yet, but want to!

50:05 -
PeggyG
@triciabrooks-did you click on the text tool first?

50:08 -
Doug H
Do any wikis have embedded spreadsheets?

50:10 -
kim caise
tricia, are you unable to add comments due to space?

50:15 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
There is so much rich learning happening in here.

50:28 -
Sandra
would any of you wonderful teachers care to share links to your student or teacher wikis?

50:29 -
andyfisher
same with me - I have a wiki standing by but have not decided hw to use it yet!

50:36 -
joevans
7 Things You Should Know About Wikis from Educause http://net.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/ELI7004.pdf

50:41 -
PeggyG
@Doug H -you can embed spreadsheets on a wiki--I've done that with a Google spreadsheet

50:41 -
triciabrooks
Have used it but have not mastered it fully. Would love to master it and use it frequently

50:44 -
mrsdurff
i think a gremlin ate my mic

50:45 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@DougH - in Wetpaint you can embed a spreadsheet content from excel file

50:54 -
loonyhiker
sorry to be a party pooper but my allergies r so bad and i took a benadryl - going to bed now

51:03 -
mrsdurff
glad it didn't happen Monday night during It's Ele!

51:03 -
loonyhiker
thx for this wonderful session!

51:03 -
andyfisher
get well soon

51:11 -
PeggyG
take care loonyhiker!

51:12 -
clguarino
how do you deal with kids who don't have internet access outside of school

51:21 -
congerjan
Feel better...

51:24 -
mrsdurff
night loony

51:28 -
azrtf
after school open labs

51:36 -
seani
thanks Sue and Steve and everyone- good session!

51:38 -
Barb from Oz
Send them to the local library

51:43 -
sdpankhurst
and library access after school

51:57 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@clguarino - kids could create their content as a .txt at home store on a USB and bring to class

51:59 -
Karen Lampe
When using a Mac, can you type directly onto a wiki? If so, what do you use if you can't do it with Word?

52:00 -
Gail 1
Gail: I would love to see some of the wikis that our participants have created. Links, please.

52:01 -
fohara
I like the idea of constructing your own knowledge...

52:02 -
kparkhill
mini:was that anthony in the background?

52:06 -
Sandra
student will remember content they have organized and written themselves

52:06 -
Carol Arc
@meacherteacher great idea

52:08 -
clinds
I help teachers use wikis as a class portfolio for the year. It is a great way to house all the content (videos, podcasts, other projects) that students have created throughout the year.

52:17 -
fohara
well stated

52:22 -
PeggyG
if students have computers but no internet access they can create content on a document and then copy/paste it into the wiki when they get to school

52:24 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@KarenLampe - each wiki has its own text editor

52:26 -
Heidi
Love that about kids using the language they know.

52:30 -
kim caise
yes karen you can type directly onto a wiki with a mac.

52:30 -
clguarino
most of my kids don't have computers at all outside of school

52:31 -
Carol Arc
ooh - portfolio

52:35 -
yenorb@gmail.com
Instead of word you can use neo office for mac... free download

52:43 -
leslie
more personal and engaged.

52:54 -
plnaugle
Goodnight everyone. Off the dinner. Thanks Sue and all involverd. Another great session.

52:55 -
Steve Ransom
But there is also the danger of copy/paste mentality. Teachers need to structure meaningful projects.

53:01 -
tlparker
Great idea~portfolio presentation at the end of the year!

53:04 -
mrsdurff
Bingo!

53:15 -
minischaef34
agreed...they are engaged completely!

53:18 -
joevans
Schools use wikis for: Teacher and school web pages, student portfolios, resource collection, online collaboration tool - administrators and teachers, online school handbook, meeting minutes, planning tools, just about anything you want to do on paper can be done on a wiki

53:18 -
mrsdurff
Give that lady an 'A'

53:20 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@CarolArc - yes use of a wiki as an eportfolio is a really popular activity

53:27 -
Lorna
love the portfolio idea

53:52 -
PeggyG
excellent list @joevans!

54:00 -
BarbInNebraska
We had a visitor from Bangladash yesterday!

54:05 -
Sue Waters
no sound

54:06 -
Judi Roach
judi; purpose for publishing and portfolio, super

54:07 -
Chandell
Do any of you ask/advise students to create their own wikis?

54:10 -
clinds
I heard a great keynote address by Ian Jakes who said something like students retain 75% of what they learn when they apply it to a real world situation and teach it to another learner and wikis are a perfect tool for students to apply and teach what they have learned.

54:13 -
joevans
Some wiki examples here: http://hcsdclassdemo.pbworks.com/Examples+and+Resources

54:15 -
Elise
how does a person "grab the mic"?

54:20 -
fohara
did we loose sound

54:21 -
andyfisher
Why then would we have students create wiki content rather than blogs? Is it just the option to have collaborative spaces?

54:32 -
Barb S.
I also use the discussion board for them to critique each other's work...

54:32 -
PeggyG
wikis have searchable content too so you can easily find information on it

54:50 -
Carol Arc
click "talk"

54:51 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@chandell yes I advise those I mentor to create their own - gives them ownership and they then see the potentials

54:58 -
kparkhill
i haven't used the searchable content....how have you used that in the classroom?

55:00 -
mrsdurff
easy to track student participation - no 'riders'=they MUST have name in the history for a grade

55:01 -
Karen Lampe
When is the next session?

55:04 -
judibea
Next session posted on Twitter?

55:06 -
Chandell
"Talk" button - bottom left-hand side of the screen

55:17 -
kim caise
be sure to click on the mic button when finished talking to deactivate the mic

55:20 -
kparkhill
how do i sign up for a session reminder?

55:21 -
Carol Arc
can't wait

55:24 -
PeggyG
blog responses are responding to what someone else has written, but wikis are written together

55:25 -
Karen Lampe
Thanks so much!

55:27 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@andyfisher - a wiki has different functionality for collaborative work - Blogs seem to be restricted to just Comments

55:31 -
minischaef34
sue, what's your twitter name?

55:34 -
judibea
how do we get newsletter--got info from an indirect contact

55:35 -
Sue Waters
suewaters

55:38 -
minischaef34
thanks

55:40 -
andyfisher
understood - thanks :)

55:40 -
meacherteacher
@ciguarina we have 1:1 laptops, so kids can create offline at home and then bring laptops back to connect.

55:51 -
Ackygirl
they are more hyper connected and expect collaboration

55:52 -
kparkhill
1:1 that's amazing!

56:00 -
PeggyG
Next session is May 27 in US/May 28 in Aus.

56:01 -
kim caise
if you are member of the classroom 2.0.com ning or the edublogger email list you will receive email reminders

56:01 -
elaineb
@clguarino- that is completely true!

56:13 -
Carol Arc
How do you control someone adding to a wiki that is inappropriate?

56:22 -
Sandra
Thank you for the email reminders Steve

56:23 -
Barb S.
Peggy... I came in very late.. did she give tips on how to handle 30 kids at once, or 150 total at a time with that?

56:28 -
kim caise
you can block that user from contributing

56:29 -
Sue Waters
http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/2009/05/09/introducing-the-classroom-20-live-beginner-series/

56:30 -
clguarino
i imagine you set up some type of moderation

56:31 -
congerjan
do your kids type well enough to use wikis?

56:41 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
@judibea best is to subscribe to Edublogger Live Events at: http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/free-live-web-events/

56:42 -
PeggyG
@Carol-you can just delete it if it's inappropriate or revert to an earlier version if necessary

56:49 -
triciabrooks
kids love to work together-collaboration. Will help them to discover the

56:52 -
andyfisher
just hit history - their disruption can take them hourse of writing - you can remove it in seconds I believe

57:03 -
kim caise
no barb s, she hasn't gotten into specifics this week of the in depth figures of users, permissions and controls this week

57:07 -
Carol Arc
do I see it before anyone else?

57:13 -
gspeer
Thank you so much for these great ideas and information.

57:16 -
joevans
Here's the page I use when sharing info about wikis - http://joevans.pbworks.com/Wikis%C2%A0-%C2%A0Riding%C2%A0the%C2%A0Wave%C2%A0of%C2%A0Change

57:39 -
meacherteacher
@ciguarino they could always compose and storyboard their content on paper then re-type I guess. You could print a paper copy for them to reflect on

57:45 -
kim caise
you can receive an email when a change has been made and i believe approve the changes

57:55 -
Steve Hargadon
You'll also find a LOT of conversations about wikis at http://www.classroom20.com/.

58:20 -
Lorna
@joevans - love your wiki and all the exmples

58:23 -
kparkhill
Thanks for all the info!

58:24 -
clguarino
i often feel overwhelmed trying to get through all the comments

58:27 -
PeggyG
the comments on the post have been really valuable already!!

58:41 -
minischaef34
is that wiki war like when two kids are writing at the same time in a google doc?

58:42 -
Carol Arc
So the change doesnt appear until I approve it?

58:42 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
Anne Mirtschin is a teacher at Hawkesdale P-12 college in Victoria Australia - Murcha

58:43 -
PeggyG
we will post the chat log so you can view it later

58:43 -
Sandra
can we have the link to this?

58:48 -
Sue Waters
http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/2009/05/09/introducing-the-classroom-20-live-beginner-series/

59:04 -
minischaef34
wiki war like two kids writing in a google doc at the same time?

59:07 -
mrsdurff
flatclassroom / horizonproject = murcha

59:08 -
Sandra
thanks!

59:09 -
joevans
Lorna - if theres material there you can use feel free to do so. ;-)

59:29 -
Greg.limperis
How much of a difference is there from a wiki and a blog?

59:30 -
judibea
joevans--i use pb also

59:37 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
Anne is presenting on Friday in Elluminate for the http://Knowledgebankglobalteacher.org.au

59:39 -
BarbInNebraska
http://smmroom113.wikispaces.com/

59:40 -
mrsdurff
@mini - can't edit same page at same time

59:46 -
minischaef34
gotcha

59:47 -
judibea
thanks sue

59:51 -
Steve Hargadon
http://www.clicktools.com/survey?iv=b511e98485ee875

59:52 -
PeggyG
wow! this time just flew by!!

59:53 -
kim caise
a blog is only editable by the author

59:54 -
Mary Ellen Lynch -Montreal
wow thanks Sue

59:56 -
andyfisher
2 am here in UK - tired but well worth it thanks :)

59:59 -
mrsdurff
@mini but can edit different pages

1:00:15 -
joevans
My wiki is located at http://joevans.pbwiki.com I use it as my professional learning tool!

1:00:18 -
mrsdurff
oh you were FABULOUS

1:00:23 -
kim caise
wikis and blogs have different purposes although some features are similar

1:00:41 -
Sue Waters
go for it:)

1:00:52 -
Ackygirl
Yay Sue!!! :)

1:00:53 -
Sue Waters
lol

1:00:57 -
Steve Hargadon
http://www.clicktools.com/survey?iv=b511e98485ee875

1:00:58 -
Sue Waters
sorry about that :)

1:01:13 -
bdon
Great Sue

1:01:27 -
meacherteacher
Great session - thanks!

1:01:27 -
jansmith
Thaks all!

1:01:27 -
andyfisher
thanks to you too :)

1:01:27 -
azrtf
Thanks, Sue!

1:01:29 -
PeggyG
Thank you Sue for a great kick-off!!

1:01:32 -
Lorna
grt 8 job Sue

1:01:34 -
minischaef34
thank you sue

1:01:37 -
azrtf
See you Peggy!

1:01:37 -
meacherteacher
Where do we get the recording? I missed that bit

1:01:41 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
Good work Sue - you are a great ambassador for Aussie presenters

1:01:47 -
clguarino
love to stay and chat, but have to feed the kids dinner. thanks, sue

1:02:01 -
minischaef34
ive got to take care of my little one now! thank you again!

1:02:03 -
PeggyG
the recording link and chat log will be posted on the beginner series blog

1:02:05 -
Steve Hargadon
I'm glad to make you feel better!

1:02:10 -
joevans
Great event! So impressed to actually particpate in a Sue Water's event. Huge fan!!

1:02:13 -
Hall Davidson
clap

1:02:14 -
Nancy Messinger
Sue, How do you get your blog?

1:02:14 -
Kathy Matthes
Clap clap

1:02:18 -
Sandra
can't wait for the next session!!

1:02:24 -
Ackygirl
where's the chocolate?

1:02:26 -
mrsdurff
bribery!

1:02:27 -
Steve Hargadon
Where is that chocolate anyway?

1:02:30 -
Sue Waters
oops chocolate

1:02:31 -
PeggyG
the power of suggestion--I'm going to look for chocolate!

1:02:38 -
jane Curry
How do we get the whiteboard

1:02:46 -
kim caise
i will email you my address for the chocolate sue

1:02:47 -
Sue Waters
Steve can you add the chocolate image onto classroom 2.0

1:02:47 -
Mary Ellen Lynch -Montreal
i need chocolate,too!

1:02:50 -
John
need chocolate

1:02:54 -
kim caise
to subscribe

1:02:54 -
Ackygirl
bye all

1:02:57 -
Heidi
I wonder if Sue's suitcase at NECC will be filled w. chocolate owed.

1:02:59 -
minischaef34
http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/2009/05/09/introducing-the-classroom-20-live-beginner-series/

1:03:02 -
minischaef34
that's her blog

1:03:10 -
mrsdurff
@Hall didn't see you here - honored to be in the same virtual space

1:03:11 -
kim caise
to subsdribe to receive the email updates

1:03:16 -
Sue Waters
http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/2009/05/09/introducing-the-classroom-20-live-beginner-series/

1:03:23 -
Nancy Messinger
How do you subscribe to the blog. Yes just the link

1:03:24 -
PeggyG
is that the link where you'll post the recording Sue?

1:03:40 -
Steve Hargadon
I think that's really Will Richardson pretending to be Hall Davidson... :)

1:03:54 -
Ordepo
thank you Sue for your insight

1:03:57 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
http://aquaculturepda.edublogs.org/

1:04:00 -
Lorraine Leo
Thanks Sue, great session.

1:04:12 -
leslie
How do put a widget or embed something under the different pages to the left rather on the main page in wikispaces?

1:04:22 -
joevans
For Sue: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fornal/373418814/sizes/o/ Virtual Chocolate!

1:04:26 -
Heidi
Night all, thanks for a great intro to wikis.

1:04:31 -
kim caise
will richardson doesn't play jokes like that steve :)

1:04:32 -
sdpankhurst
Thanks Sue for your time and knowledge

1:04:49 -
PeggyG
beautiful John!! That chocolate works on my diet! :-)

1:04:53 -
andyfisher
right - bed for me - thanks so much. Would love to stay on the line but have work in 5 hrs and haven't gone to bed yet! Thanks Sue - gretat session

1:05:04 -
BarbInNebraska
heading out! Thanks everyone!

1:05:07 -
Judi Roach
mine does not have save as, it just says save

1:05:15 -
PeggyG
@leslie Sue will get into the details about embedding things on a wiki in another session

1:05:24 -
Sue Waters
sdhould have warned people on that

1:05:24 -
Karen Lampe
I couldn't get to SaveAs. Mine only said save.

1:05:25 -
jane Curry
Thanks Sue

1:05:26 -
Sue Waters
LOL

1:05:43 -
kparkhill
Thanks everyone, see you next time!

1:05:44 -
Doug H
Thanks for excellent webinar!

1:05:44 -
mrsdurff
when are you mailing our choc?

1:05:48 -
kim caise
save is fine then go to whiteboard. you would need to save each of the whiteboards individually that you wanted to save

1:05:51 -
triciabrooks
great session.

1:05:53 -
Mary Ellen Lynch -Montreal
yes voice is so special!!!

1:06:00 -
Sue Waters
It is Steve's job to do it

1:06:02 -
Jean King
Checking out. Thank you so much! I'm ready to work with my wiki.

1:06:03 -
mrsdurff
YEAH MICHELE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1:06:09 -
Jean King
Thanks again!

1:06:13 -
kim caise
if you view the recordings all of the whiteboards, slides, and chat is visible in the recordings

1:06:14 -
leslie
@PeggyG Thanks, no worries. I'll keep looking.

1:06:15 -
Mary Ellen Lynch -Montreal
Sue it was so great to hear your voice and "accent".

1:06:21 -
fohara
Without a mic....nice resources shared...Thanks..

1:07:03 -
mrsdurff
excellent qt!

1:07:10 -
Steve Hargadon
@chandell: just used a web-based survey tool.

1:07:24 -
Steve Hargadon
You can share the web link with the survey as a web tour.

1:07:25 -
andyfisher
through the kids - they bring more pressure than fronteir teachers in my experience

1:07:42 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
http://ementoring.wetpaint.com - here's my ideas on getting newbies interested

1:07:43 -
mrsdurff
that's what i do andy

1:07:44 -
Barb from Oz
Show them what you have been able to do with it, and offer to help them set up their own...

1:07:51 -
andyfisher
The kids are so responsive that the other staff members becme motivated to get involved I think

1:07:51 -
Karen Lampe
I wanted to capture the sharing for purpose but I couldn't get it into a PDF. Your instructions said to go to Save As. I didn't have that option--Only Save.

1:07:55 -
leslie
One of my teachers used them for their supper club.

1:08:13 -
joevans
Web 2.0 tools: Start slowly, find a neat and easy application for them to use. I often use a tool set such as Flickr Toys to get them going. So much fun. http://joevans.pbworks.com/Flickr+Toys+and+More

1:08:15 -
mrsdurff
food?

1:08:31 -
PeggyG
when you save the whiteboard one of your choices is to save as a PDF-do you see that choice?

1:08:35 -
mrsdurff
I have a one track mind as you can see

1:08:40 -
Sue Waters
yes it was

1:08:43 -
susan
any preparationg for the next session

1:08:59 -
Steve Hargadon
The save as PDF shows up for me as the final dropdown in the box--"file type."

1:09:08 -
mrsdurff
@susan you mean homework?

1:09:36 -
Karen Lampe
Now I can't even get back to that whiteboard. When I went to File I got Save. When I went to the right on that screen, I could only get Save Whiteboard or Save Chat.

1:09:38 -
jane Curry
I'm Parrpakala on twitter

1:09:52 -
susan
not really but any suggestion to make the concepts more real and understandable.

1:10:03 -
judibea
Web 2.0 --- pick a couple to get comfy with at start

1:10:09 -
PeggyG
click on save whiteboard-then a menu will pop up with the choice of format-choose pdf

1:10:17 -
andyfisher
showcase 3 tools with great functionality and don't overload colleagues - when they see benefit, the tipping point comes. If not - time will take care of it - the dinosaurs vs the mammals - web 2.0 is Darwinian ultimately!!!

1:10:19 -
Judi Roach
karen, I have the same thing save/ no save as

1:10:33 -
Karen Lampe
OK. Now, how (or when ) can I get back to that whiteboard?

1:10:44 -
Greg.limperis
Do you think this change will take longer than the technology allows seeing that technology changes so quick?

1:11:01 -
Carole McCulloch (AUST)
must go now sue ciao

1:11:24 -
mrsdurff
by carole

1:11:32 -
Karen Lampe
Got it. Thanks so much.

1:11:34 -
jane Curry
thanks Carole

1:11:34 -
mrsdurff
you do

1:11:51 -
Kathy Matthes
@Greg - I think once teachers learn one Web 2.0 technology, they tend to be more open to learning about the others.

1:11:52 -
kevinmurphy775
We've all been working too hard!

1:11:56 -
jane Curry
good one Sue

1:12:07 -
mrsdurff
@kevin indeed

1:12:11 -
judibea
rogers innovation adoption curve

1:12:13 -
Elena
can someone post the link toher site?

1:12:22 -
Sue Waters
http://suewaters.wikispaces.com/Rogers

1:12:55 -
Steve Hargadon
Disrupting Class would say that a real transformation like this will not / cannot come through the front door of school systems, so you just have to use them on the fringes.

1:13:20 -
kevinmurphy775
I can't get away.. I'm listening to Podcasts, keeping up with the network and burning out

1:13:37 -
meacherteacher
@KarenLampe I'm on a Mac and had the same problem. Got it by choosing to print, but choosing to make a pdf along the way instead of actually printing. Don't know if that will work for you

1:13:48 -
andyfisher
the fringes are spacious - I like it here - an the kids gather in the riges because it's where they tend to live!

1:14:04 -
mrsdurff
@kevin me too - have audio to edit and here i am

1:14:14 -
tammie
I didn't come in until the last minute...was there discussion about getting parent permissions? That is what I worry about.

1:14:18 -
andyfisher
fringes - not riges..what's a rige anyway?!

1:14:22 -
Chandell
I'd LOVE that session!!

1:14:22 -
kevinmurphy775
I used to do video editing.. got burned out there

1:14:45 -
mrsdurff
@kevin kids do their own

1:14:50 -
jane Curry
ThAT'S a great link, thanks,

1:14:51 -
Sue Waters
heya Judy

1:15:11 -
kevinmurphy775
...for community TV, my own projects

1:15:23 -
meacherteacher
I have used a wiki in a moodle, but I didn't set it up. Just edited the wiki once I was within the moodle

1:15:33 -
Barb S.
have most participants been teachers of middle school, hs, or higher ed?

1:15:45 -
derrallg
I didn't like the moodle wiki

1:15:47 -
jane Curry
Have to leave, thanks for this, didn't get to finish evaluation, all really good though.Cheers

1:15:48 -
mrsdurff
i' have PreK-12

1:15:57 -
mrsdurff
bye jane

1:16:01 -
Greg.limperis
I am a technology Facilitator/computer teacher in a middle school

1:16:10 -
Jorge
I've used wikis in Drupal

1:16:13 -
andyfisher
no experience - sorry

1:16:17 -
Barb S.
thanks greg.. I am too..

1:16:20 -
meacherteacher
Must go now. Thanks, this was terrific. See you next time

1:16:24 -
mrsdurff
i full of choc

1:16:27 -
robinoz
I can recommend installation of module ouwiki to your moodle site. It works better than the default wiki. Sorry I haven't got microphone.

1:16:33 -
Barb S.
just wondered how many are able to do this with all the lockdowns..

1:16:35 -
Chandell
Limited participation

1:16:36 -
Elena
i dont know much about moodle

1:16:48 -
Barb S.
and how to handle it with 150 kids at a time

1:16:51 -
clinds
I find the wikis in moodle are so limited that I just link from Moodle to wikispaces.

1:16:53 -
Kathy Matthes
I don't have experience with Moodle. There are wikis in teacher class websites such as Edu2.0 and TeacherWeb.

1:16:54 -
jacq
I have used moodle, but didnt use the wiki module

1:16:56 -
Greg.limperis
Barb you can link up with me on linkedin or my site at tech-in-ed.ning.com

1:17:09 -
mrsdurff
@clinds so agree

1:17:20 -
Greg.limperis
I would love to talk with you Barb about middle school issues

1:17:39 -
Barb S.
ok... link to the ning...

1:17:43 -
Sue Waters
parent permissions

1:18:14 -
mrsdurff
i work in private school - if kids are there then they have parental permission

1:18:20 -
judibea
sure--edublogger?

1:18:24 -
mrsdurff
we all use screen names

1:18:26 -
Greg.limperis
Are there any safe sites for students where you would not worry about too much outside influences on their site?

1:18:46 -
judibea
sure

1:18:47 -
Greg.limperis
Barb the link is http://tech-in-ning.com

1:18:48 -
joevans
Gotta run! Thanks everyone. Very enjoyable event! ;-)

1:18:58 -
mrsdurff
@Greg wiki or ?

1:19:03 -
judibea
Do we have a group for this?

1:19:10 -
mrsdurff
bye joe

1:19:14 -
clinds
I guess there's a wiki add-on through Moodle but they said the next big version of Moodle (2.0) will have a better wiki feature built-in and it might mess up the new version if you have the wiki add-on installed.

1:19:20 -
congerjan
Night all...

1:19:28 -
Steve Hargadon
Good idea!

1:19:29 -
mrsdurff
night conger

1:19:37 -
susan
is there a way for children can draw pictures on wikis

1:19:38 -
aforgrave
g'night!

1:19:38 -
andyfisher
no - just wanted to say well done - I know the virtual classroom can cause stilted converstaion but you manage it really well :)

1:19:39 -
clinds
Thank you!!!

1:19:40 -
Steve Hargadon
I'll set it up right now.

1:19:42 -
jacq
bye all...

1:19:45 -
judibea
thanks sue

1:19:50 -
susan
thank you

1:19:53 -
jane Curry
Thanks

1:19:55 -
Judi Roach
judi; thanks sue

1:19:55 -
judibea
chocolates 4 U 2

1:19:58 -
Greg.limperis
Thanks Sue

1:20:00 -
Sue Waters
go for it

1:20:02 -
leslie
Thank you so much!

1:20:04 -
jacq
And thanks you - i wish we had elluminate at uni

1:20:04 -
mrsdurff
@judibea are you on Twitter?

1:20:06 -
fohara
Thanks....will be notified by email the next meeting?

1:20:06 -
Jean King
Got to go. Thanks, Sue

1:20:13 -
mrsdurff
bye Jean

1:20:17 -
Elena
thanks sorry was late will catch up on the saved session

1:20:19 -
Kathy Matthes
Divide the class into groups and assign wiki topics.

1:20:28 -
judibea
yes on twitter I am Library_SHelf

1:20:28 -
Kathy H
Thanks- this is great! Lots to play with.

1:20:45 -
Chandell
I'd be interested in the session on Roger's Innovation Adoption Curve and how we can look at reaching the Early and Late Majority.

1:20:52 -
Greg.limperis
fohara I usually notify members of my site on free webinars and I will add these for Steve

1:21:40 -
mrsdurff
where will this discussion continue?

1:21:56 -
mrsdurff
your call sue

1:22:09 -
mrsdurff
it's your thing

1:22:25 -
Chandell
Thank you for you time today, and for continuing this series...

1:22:34 -
Steve Hargadon
http://www.classroom20.com/group/classroom20beginnergroup

1:22:39 -
mrsdurff
thanks

1:22:42 -
judibea
post your address to edubloggere again?

1:22:47 -
Chandell
Thank you Steve this time frame allows Hawaii users to join the session.

1:22:47 -
derrallg
thank you Sue

1:22:54 -
Sue Waters
http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/2009/05/09/introducing-the-classroom-20-live-beginner-series/

1:23:18 -
fohara
Greg/...thanks..

1:23:31 -
Sue Waters
excellent

1:23:45 -
mrsdurff
mmm i love icing

1:24:12 -
Greg.limperis
Steve, send me dates for any of these and I will add them to my site and notify all my members as well as the Linkedin members now migrating to Ning

1:24:32 -
Mary Ellen Lynch -Montreal
i love icing too

1:24:43 -
mrsdurff
ok bye

1:24:52 -
Greg.limperis
See you steve and Susan. Thanks

1:24:58 -
derrallg
thanks bye

1:24:58 -
Kathy Matthes//
Thanks for a great session! Bye