SECOND CONVERSATION (20 FEB 2008)

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Agenda:

We had a great initial conversation on Feb 15 where we touched on a lot of questions below. The main focus of that conversation was on question #1 -- the need for open content and rationale for Creative Commons. (See archive: a lot of talk about the confusion around copyright law, the importance of helping students and adults understand it, and (equally important) the importance of making it fairer and less restrictive so that students have the freedom to mix/mashup/create work. Creative Commons helps do all of that.)

For our Feb 20 conversation we'd welcome additions to the conversation above (including links to resources for better understanding coypright and -- especially -- Creative Commons). But I'm also hoping that we'll move on to some of the other questions below. In other words:

1) Is it working? For example, are any commercial or high-profile groups stepping up to the plate and offering content under Creative Commons licenses?

2) What are the most exciting things you're seeing from students and teachers that take advantage of the existence of Creative Commons?

3) What are the challenges or barriers that we need to address before Creative Commons licensing will be widely embraced?

4) What other issues do we need to address in talking to school and district leaders about Creative Commons and open content?



FIRST CONVERSATION (15 FEB 2008)

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On the call:

Notes from Jim Klein:

The Tech Learning article with the tough fair use questions is at:
http://www.techlearning.com/db _area/archives/TL/2002/10 /copyright_answers.php

Wes Fryer's attribution guidelines are at:
http://www.speedofcreativity .org/attribution-guidance/

Creative Commons has a great FAQ at:
http://wiki.creativecommons .org/Frequently_Asked_Questions

I found Creative Commons attribution guidelines from the Australian National Copyright Unit at:
http://www.smartcopying.edu.au /docs/creative-commons-resource s.pdf

Interestingly, I couldn't find any specific attribution guidelines on the CC site, probably because they leave that up to the author in the "Commons Deed" as follows:

You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work).

Agenda:

Introductions and locations

Notes from Judy Salpeter (with some exploratory additions), who is working on an article on this topic for CoSN:

1) What's significant about Creative Commons and open content -- what should K-12 decision-makers understand about them?
  • Why is this an important topic for K-12?
  • Do educators understand its importance? Why or why not?
  • What historical educational elements are at play here that will have an impact on this discussion in K-12?

2) What are some examples of CC/open content that are particularly relevant to K-12 users and why (with some details/URLs so we can dig deeper)? Two examples that I'm curious about are Curriki and ccmixter but I'd love to hear about others as well.
  • Who are the experts / voices on this in K-12?
  • Are there examples that really showcase its importance?
  • Is there good teaching material anywhere?

3) What are schools/districts they know of doing about Creative Commons/open content licensing that's worth noting in the article? (Again, enough detail so we can flesh it out would be great.)
  • How does this relate to "Digital Citizenship?"

4) Have any of them been involved in ccLearn or the Cape Town Open Education Declaration? Once again, I'm wondering what to say about all that.

5) Are there any controversies or unresolved issues that are important to address in this piece? Anything else we should be covering?